How do you deal with comment spam: wordpress?
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I have akismet installed on my Wordpress blog, and it does a great job of filtering the spam comments, but for some reason my site (and server) gets slammed by the amount of spam comments akismet blocks. If I check my spam folder there will be over 100 spam comments in an hour. (which in turn puts a load on my server.)
Does anyone have any thoughts on how to put a stop to this? (Or at least slow it down?) I know I could use a captcha, but I really don't want to put any barriers on people commenting and I don't even like using those captcha's myself.
Thoughts?
By the way, does anyone know how spam like this works? This has been going on for sometime now. Are spammers just using automated software to do this?
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Paul
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Thanks for the reply, very helpful info.
As far as server monitoring I don't think I have anything in place. Any suggestions?
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Sorry - guess should have made that clearer, Rick. There will be a definite reduction in server resources used. The comment still gets partially processed in order to send it to Akismet, but that new setting tells your system to just discard it if it comes back marked as spam. That way, no database writes occur for that spam, which will definitely reduce server load (database reads and writes are fairly "expensive" in terms of added server processing needed).
Without that setting, spam comments that come back from Akismet get written to your database under the Spam table. That's a lot of extra processing for something you were going to throw out anyway.
This won't save as many resources as actually blocking the spam before it even starts to get processed (as the other suggested plugin would do) but you should notice lowered demand on your server resources with this setting. Not to mention a whole lot less crap to clean out every day, as you point out
Paul
P.S One side effect to that setting is you won't be quite as aware of just how much spam you're actually getting since you won't see a lot of it. This means a spam run against some older posts could start really hitting server resources hard but you might not be aware. (Remember, this setting doesn't eliminate the processing demands completely.)
So keep an eye on the stat that shows how many spams Akismet has handled. If you see a prolonged surge, and/or have further server load problems, it will be a signal that more drastic protection methods have become necessary.
Do you have a server monitoring/alerting system in place?
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Thanks for your very helpful post! It was great!
I never thought of selecting the option to auto delete spam comments on posts older than a month old. Once I did that, it cut down on 80% of the spam I was getting! So thanks!
Quick question on that. Does enabling that option cut down on the server resources? In other words, let's say it cuts down on 200 spam comments a day because they are auto deleted, do those 200 spam comments still get entered in as comments and therefore use server resources? Does this just save me the step of having to go through and delete them / clear the spam folder? Or does this save a huge amount of server resources? Either way it's a huge win!
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Just wondering if these responses helped answer your question, Rick?
If not, what else might you need clarified tht we may be able to help with?
Paul
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Ahh... comment spam - the bane of every successful website with an active blog. It's actually a signal of your success that your getting that much spam
I fully agree though - captcha is NEVER the answer if you want to maintain high visitor engagement. You shouldn't be offloading your spam problem onto your visitors to solve. There are better options.
So let's dive in.
How the spam gets generated There are two types of comment spam: bot-generated and manual. The first is created by software "bots" that have been programmed to crawl the web looking for the scripts on a website that allow content submission e.g. comment forms, contact forms etc. The software then accesses the script directly and submits its crapload. WordPress (and othe CMSs) are especially vulnerable because these scripts have the same names on every single install - the bot only has to look for a few very specific filenames in a few standard places.
Because this is two pieces of software talking directly to each other, hundreds, or even thousands of submissions per hour can be generated. The bots generally have no limits on them, so eventually they'll consume so many server resources they degrade or even completely consume the server's ability to do the rest of it's job. (This is considered to be at least 65% of all spam.)
With manual spam, an actual human in a very cheap labour market is paid to go through the posts on a website and manually enter the crapload, entering whatever info into the fields is necessary to make the comment system think it's a legit human-generated comment.
Filtering vs Blocking
The problem with Akismet is that it is a spam filtering tool, not a spam blocking tool. Each comment is allowed to enter the blog system where it is then sent to Akismet's server to be assessed. Akismet then sends it back to your site flagged to go into your spam, moderation, or publication queue. This means each spam message receives the same processing as legit comments, so the system is still using processing and database resources for every single message received. (Even spam gets written to the database and stays there until you decide it should be deleted.)
All very processing intensive, and hence why having Akismet doesn't do anything to reduce the server load of a spam run - and may even increase it slightly.
Optimize Akismet's Settings
So what to do? First, there's a simple checkbox in Akismet settings that can make a huge difference. You can tell Akismet that if it recognizes as spam a comment to a post that's more than a month old, it should just automatically discard it instead of adding it to the spam queue and writing it into the database. This greatly reduces the database activity created by the spam, and also helps keep your spam queue clearer so it's easier recognize legit comments that might have been caught from more recent posts. (Spammers tend to focus on older posts for a number of reasons - mostly becasue they're easier to find) The clear disadvantage is that the (very) few comments falsely identified as spam will be irretrievably gone. I know this could be an issue for you as many of your posts continue to get comments for months after, but if you're clearing 100s of comments an hour, chances are that some legit comments are accidentally getting deleted already.
To enable the automatically discard function, simply go to the Akismet Configuration page under your Plugins (where WordPress.com API Key is entered). At the bottom of the page, check-mark the box for Automatically discard spam comments on posts older than a month. Remember to click the Update options button when done.
Stronger Protection
If you need more protection, you're going to need to install a plugin that intercepts the comments before they get into the system and automatically discards the ones that show the characteristics of bot-submission behaviour. Essentially the plugin analyzes how the comment was posted, rather than its content.
The best-known of these is Bad Behaviour, but it's a pretty heavy-handed solution that has been known to even block GoogleBot and hence cause deindexing of many pages. I'd call it a last-ditch solution.
I'd suggest you try WP Captcha-Free which is a small, very lightweight plugin that invisibly creates a "hash" when the comment is created that must also be present when submitted. Most spam-bots fail at this since they're submitting directly to the comment script and so are blocked before the comment really starts processing. Note that commenters must have Javascript enabled using this system. Since only 2-5% of web users don't have JS enabled, this is a reasonable tradeoff (and much better than pissing of 100% of your commenters by enforcing a captcha)
You will still want Akismet active behind this protection to catch the manually-submitted spam.
So to recap - in order to reduce your server load from spam, you need a system that BLOCKS the spam before it starts to get processed in the first place. Just doing more/better FILTERING won't help as the filtering process actually uses up even more server power. You want your server only processing what is likely to be real comments.
Sorry for the loooong reply but comment spam is a big/complicated issue and if it's approached incorrectly, you can make your problem much worse instead of better.
Fire away with the questions
Paul
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Your blog will have a 'hook' where scripts can automatically insert comments to your site. Check your server logs - you'll probably see one form or another getting hit, a lot, or a script like xmlrpc.
If it's a form, add CAPTCHA, and that'll stop the scripts from auto-submitting.
If it's something else, consider changing permissions so the whole world can't hit it.
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You may want to check your GA to see if this started all at once. Your site might be under a DDoS attack, but your server is holding up. That sounds like an awful lot of blocking in one hour. Sometimes the ISP has to step in if you host the server inhouse.
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Is your blog self hosted or hosted by Wordpress.com ? If it's the one in your profile, then it's hosted by Wordpress.com which would then limit your abilities but then probably shouldn't have server "stress" issues. If it's self hosted, then you can try some of these plugins and see if they help (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/search.php?q=spam) Depending upon the software being used to spam your blog, one of these for sure will be able to reduce the issues. So yes, it's automated tools that do all this comment spam.
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