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One locations page, or multiple pages?
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Hi,
I represent a franchisor who does all marketing- including local seo- for our franchisees. I've read a lot about local SEO and understand the basics, but have some remaining questions.
1- If our typical territories are quite large and encompass more than one major city, should we create multiple location pages for the same franchise owner? I believe the answer should be yes from an SEO stand point, but the problem is that most of our franchisees naturally just have one business address (their home). Since PO boxes and virtual offices aren't the way to go, what's the best course of action? And when I say major cities, I'm really talking about major cities (and not just small towns/boroughs). Can they just use a friend's/relative's address?
2- There's a lot of info out there about "locations pages," but it's not really clear whether or not you should really just have ONE page for each location, or several pages with different content? For instance, it looks like a lot of businesses are creating just one, "home-page" looking landing page for their individual locations, with everything from services to testimonials on just that one page. Is this preferred over creating several different local pages for that one location? The latter is what we currently do. From the user stand-point, it looks like each franchise location has it's own "mini website" on our main website. For instance, a landing page optimized for the local business name, a local services page, a project/photo gallery page, local review page, etc. It seems like a lot less work just building one landing page for each location, but is the payoff the same?
I'm torn between the two strategies- is it really worth the extra work (in terms of traffic + local ranking) to build out the individual pages for the one location?
Thanks Moz Community!
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Makes sense and this clears up a lot of our questions. Thanks Miriam!
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Thanks for the response Donna! This helps!
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Nice responses from both Donna and Joy here. Thanks, ladies
Kimberly, definitely pay attention to Joy's advice regarding using friend's houses for this. It's a definite no-no. Review Google's Guidelines to know how to play by the rules and avoid disaster.
I recommend reading the following:
This one is now 3 years old, so there might be a few old terms in it, but it should help you define your business model:
https://moz.com/blog/local-landing-pages-guide
And this one should help you with your approach to creating these landing pages:
https://moz.com/blog/overcoming-your-fear-of-local-landing-pages
Finally, I'm going to raise the issue of RankBrain here and link you to Rand's WB Friday on this:
https://moz.com/blog/optimizing-for-rankbrain-whiteboard-friday
Please take a few minutes to watch this to help you determine whether multiple pages for the sake of keyword breadth or a single, really comprehensive page for each theme/topic will serve you better. SEO is changing and that goes for both local and virtual businesses.
I hope these resources will help you skill up to develop a really smart and modern strategy for marketing your business!
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There isn't anything wrong with creating multiple "city-pages" on your website targeting different city names. Just be careful, because if there isn't enough unique content on them that is valuable to the user, they could be labeled as Doorway Pages, which are against Google's guidelines. Phil Rozek has a great guide full of ideas for content for these pages.
What is not allowed is creating multiple listings for the same business in Google My Business. Google will remove the listings if they catch them and can possibly suspend the user's account as well. Using addresses of relatives to create these listings would also be against Google's guidelines and would be defined as a fake listing.
I would only suggest creating multiple subpages for the location if they are targeting different keywords (products/services). For example, if you have a location for an insurance agent then it might make sense to have 2 subpages, one targeting auto insurance and another targeting home insurance. However, if the location just really offers one service, like a hotel, then it doesn't make sense. I've seen chains do this and often Google only ever ranks the main location page and not the subpage because they are all targeting the exact same thing and the content is almost the same.
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Hi Kimberley,
1- Should we create multiple location pages for the same franchise owner?
You're right, the answer is "yes" but the objective of creating a single page per location is not so your franchisee shows up in local search results (on Google Maps), but so they show up in organic search results.
Can they just use a friend's/relative's address?
You need a unique mailing address for each location you want to show up in maps. A place where someone will answer the phone during business hours with a typical business greeting like "XYZ Business. How can I help you." I don't recommend using friends/relatives addresses for lots of reasons including the fact that friends and relatives move and you'd still have to incur the cost of getting a unique phone number and optimizing a business listing for each location.
2. It seems like a lot less work just building one landing page for each location, but is the payoff the same?
More is better. Google favors fresh, active, and growing websites. Many businesses build a one-page-fits-all solution due to budget constraints. That can work in niche / non-competitive markets, but rarely does otherwise. You should assess your budget, resources, and competition and then decide on an approach.
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