301 Redirect How Long until the juice passes through to new site
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Hi Guys,
Following on from a question i asked last week in regard to a 301 http://www.seomoz.org/q/301-redirect-have-no-ranking
I was thinking that i had some kind of issue on the site, although i have gone over it with a fine tooth comb i cannot find any issue's and from the amount of reads the thread has had im sure if there was something obvious it would have been pointed out.
So i am quite confident the 301 from site A to site B is fine and working as intended, so my question is how long should it take until the juice is passed From site A to Site B as its 9 weeks now and still down 85% on traffic and even text for my home page if copied into the search bar don't bring up my site
Bing is fine and did not see any real traffic drops but Google is not giving me back the rankings i had prior
Whenever i have done a 301 before the rankings pretty steady and i see no real loss in rankings but this time ... painful
all changes in WMT made
Canonical tag implemented
all Pages 301 and correct 200 response from the targeted page
Sitemap Updated
Many Links Changed from Old site to new (including DMOZ)
no Robots text Blocking directory's
Google crawling freely and regularlyThe strange thing is New content is indexed immediately and ranks easily, I added a page for my service in my local area and went straight to position 5 in Google however old existing content wont move, I tracked 150 keywords only 4 are top 75
Don't know what else to do so any advice would be much appreciated
PS site is around 17k pages
Paul
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Thanks for clearing that up. It has been years since we changed our domain etc... and our wait was about 6 weeks rather than months, but so much has changed... anyway, it looks as though you have set everything up correctly, sorry I couldn't be any help. Good luck my friend - I would say 'build links etc...' while you wait but I have no doubt you already know what to do
Cheers
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Thanks for the replys
@Billy
What i mean by old content wont move, all we have done is change the URL name of the site the new site is a mirror of the old site with all the correct 301's going to the mirrored pages,
Although all the new site is indexed fully, there are around 100 pages of the old site left no important pages just some really deep linked pages which is normal i think.
My ranking is not ok, it was on the old domain but not the new i am down at least 85% compared to site now and the site as it was.
Thanks for the feedback 6 month wait is not what i was hoping but if that what it takes then so be it i just needed a figure to work too, hopefully the site will start to rank again soon
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One of our sites it took about 6 months before things got back to "normal" in the SERPs. As far as how long to leave the 301s. I would say indefinitely. There are links from other sites with old URLs that we still get traffic from and want to make sure we get that referral traffic.
Having the old 301s in place I do not think hurts anything as over time they will be used less and less. You could also look at your server logs and determine that some 301s are not used anymore and then turn them off.
It just always surprises me when I see Google looking for old pages that we have 301ed for over a year and so I leave them in place.
Good luck.
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"however old existing content wont move"
You mean that the old page is still indexed? Sorry I am just trying to understand the problem better. First of all, thank you for the link to your old question. Your URLs were there so I took the liberty of checking them and you are, of course, correct. All 301s appear perfect. Also, you state that your ranking is ok? Is that correct? Again, I apologize, I'm just trying to get the full picture. In one paragraph you state that you can't find yourself if you search your content but in another you say that you are indexed and rank easily.
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