PA 1 and DA 1, the website is not new
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Hi everyone!
I have a website (ponturipariuri.pro), few years old. The PA and DA used to be around 25-35 but now it shows me 1 for both PA and DA. I just discovered it and I do not understand why.
Take a look at the image I attached here. There was no spam on my website. Google still shows my website on the first page for many keywords.
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No problem
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Thanks so much Eli for your response, super helpful. I will wait until end of March and see where I am at then. Appreciate it!
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Hey Rosie,
Most new sites and links will be indexed by our spiders and available in Mozscape and Open Site Explorer within 60 days, but some take even longer for a variety of reasons, including the crawl-ability of sites, the amount and quality of inbound links to them, and the depth of pages in subdirectories. The index is based on a breadth-first approach, starting at the top of a site's hierarchy and moving down from there. We do not crawl every link, but higher quality links. As your site is fairly new, I wouldn't worry yet
. On our next index (around the end of March) you should expect to see your links coming in.You also might want to check to see if we have indexed the pages linking to your site. You'll also want to make sure that we aren't blocked from crawling the site. If our web crawlers are blocked from crawling certain pages (i.e., with "noindex" or Robots.txt), they may not be included in the index.
Have a great day!
Eli
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Hi Eli,
Can I chip in and ask for your help on my website www.rosieandtherecipes.com please? It's a fairly new website (less than 2 months old) but it's getting 10k+ visits a month (due to a popular instagram) and I have plenty of inbound links, none of which are showing, I've listed a few examples below but there are more:
Appreciate your guidance. My website is made on Squarespace and in a blog format, I've checked index'ing and it's working well (ranking 2nd on google page 1). Just wondering why my DA score is still at 1 and no links have been discovered?
Thanks!
Rosie
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It shouldn't do, especially if nothing has majorly changed with your website.
Just because we haven't index your website/links in our latest index, doesn't mean that they don't exist or that Google hasn't found them. Our index is currently only about 30% the size of Google's, so search engines take into account many more factors when they actually select the order of the results.
Eli
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The links are coming from the same sites, but there are only 10% of them so it's really strange. Anyways.
Will this affect my positions in Google search?
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It's virtually impossible to pinpoint exactly how we discovered it. It also depends hugely on the quality of the links as opposed to the quantity of the links.
Eli
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Ok, that's fine. But how did MOZ find my second website (DA 13) since it has not even 10% of the number of links that the first site has. And those 10% were also available for the first site.
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Check out this great link on how we index the web: https://moz.com/help/guides/research-tools/open-site-explorer/updates/index-process
We are not stating your website is 'bad' or 'weak' by giving it a DA of 1. It's just that we have not discovered it in our latest crawl, as mentioned above.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
Eli
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On the 5th February we released our latest index. Your website was not picked up in our latest index hence why you now have a PA/DA of 1.
It just means that we have not crawled your website in our latest index. We do not crawl EVERY website. If we crawl your site. Domain Authority is a score (on a 100-point scale) developed by Moz that predicts how well a website will rank on search engines, we are not saying your DA is actually 1, it's just we have not discovered your site in our latest Index.
If we discover your site during our next crawl, you may well indeed regain your former metrics!
As mentioned above, we only crawl a percentage of what Google crawls so they should have no problem finding your site
Sorry for the confusion here!
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More than that, I have another website, few months old and it has DA 13, altough I didn't work on SEO and it is less stronger than the affected one. How can this be explained?
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I think I don't get it. Two weeks ago the PA and DA were very good, now it is 1. The website is not good anymore? I have a lot of links on a lot of strong websites. The trust flow just became higher this year. I invested a lot in SEO, a lot of links and advertorials. What can I do now? It's really strange that my competitors kept their PA and DA.
I have few more questions:
What should I do now? I'm starting from zero or what? My site is not good anymore?
Will this affect my position in Google search?
Will I get back my old PA and DA?
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Hey!
Thanks for reaching out to us!
On the 5th February we released our latest index, which included new sites/pages being indexed by us and subsequently other sites/pages dropping out of our index.
A PA/DA of 1 will mean that your site/pages are currently not in our index. This can happen for a number of reasons, such as we haven't found any external links to the site, the external links we've found aren't considered very valuable to our index, the pages of the site we've found aren't considered very valuable, the site is blocking our crawler or the site is fairly new. In your case, it is most likely a lack of links to the site / low quality links.
For some more in-depth info, here's how we compile our index:
- We grab the most recent index.
- We take the top 10 billion URLs with the highest MozRank (with a fixed limit on some of the larger domains).
- We start crawling from the top down until we've crawled 90,000,000,000 pages (which is about 35% the amount in Google's index).
So, if the site is not linked to by one of these seed URLs (or one of the URLs linked to by them in the next update) then it won't show up in our index.
The best course of action going forward would be to continue to gather and build and encourage high quality links, from high authority websites, this will encourage our crawler (and other crawlers) back to your site and ensure we get a fresh picture during our next update -which is scheduled for around March 29th.
I hope this helps - please let me know if you have any other questions!
Eli
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