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Our 10 point drop is on a https site

Well, on the good side, there is only one way to go...

Anyone got more than 10!???

Hi,

Yes i have just asked something similar. One client has seen a 10 point drop.Not an easy one to explain...

We have had a steady rise over the past year and as the DA results came out i was extremely disappointed to see a 10 point drop. Competitors have also dropped but not by this figure.

We have been continuing with the work we have been doing all year. Not the best news to have to share with the client.

Would you use DA as a KPI or is it a little unreliable?

We try to never use them for a few reasons, after talking to our dev team here...

Bad For SEO
Linking/Bookmarks
Difficulty with Debugging
No real performance gains

I would really consider a separate page that may well have some real SEO value with a few good terms and explanations on.

Would like to hear other opinions on this...

Ok, i see, it may be more useful to have them as a seperate page, but that is probably a whole different debate and highly subjective.

So what i have looked at is this...

...since there are so many legitimate uses for hiding content with display: none; when creating interactive features, that sites aren't automaticallypenalised for content that is hidden this way (so long as it doesn't look algorithmically spammy).

Google's Webmaster guidelines also make clear that a good practice when using content that is initially legitimately hidden for interactivity purposes is to also include the same content in a  <noscript></code> tag, and Google recommend that if you design and code for users including users with screen readers or javascript disabled, then 9 times out of 10 good relevant search rankings will follow (though their specific advice seems more written for cases where javascript writes new content to the page).</em></p> <blockquote> <p><em><strong>JavaScript:</strong> Place the same content from the JavaScript in a tag. If you use this method, ensure the contents are exactly the same as what’s contained in the JavaScript, and that this content is shown to visitors who do not have JavaScript enabled in their browser.</em></p> </blockquote> <p><em>So, best practice seems pretty clear.</em></p> <p><em><strong>What I can't find out is</strong>, however, the simple factual matter of whether hidden content is indexed by search engines (but with potential penalties if it looks 'spammy'), or, whether it is ignored, or, whether it is indexed but with a lower weighting (<a href="http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/1685/is-content-inside-a-noscript-tag-indexed-by-search-indexes">like <code><noscript></code> content is, apparently</a>).</em></p> <p>That was from another SEO site, what i would say is that Google doesn't 'penalise' for duplicate content so would it be a disaster to try it, see if it is picked up as dupe and then change if necessary?</p></noscript>

Hi,

This may also be a local search issue? I have just done the same search (based near Leicester) and i get the following results...

http://twitpic.com/ebjqpi

So you are coming 3rd in the results... Try clearing your cache etc when doing the search and/or doing it in incognito window in Chrome. See if your results are different.

Hi,

How would it be displayed? Wouldn't it be just as useful to have it open in a new window that the user could keep open? If you need to display 250+ words plus a sentence for each then the user would not be able to see the content they are/were interested in.

You could then have a link to it on each page....

Do your 'higher ups' embrace user experience and how it affects people's browsing? Maybe an education job... Good luck!

Not sure if that helped, but just my opinion.

We try to never use them for a few reasons, after talking to our dev team here...

Bad For SEO
Linking/Bookmarks
Difficulty with Debugging
No real performance gains

I would really consider a separate page that may well have some real SEO value with a few good terms and explanations on.

Would like to hear other opinions on this...

Hi,

This may also be a local search issue? I have just done the same search (based near Leicester) and i get the following results...

http://twitpic.com/ebjqpi

So you are coming 3rd in the results... Try clearing your cache etc when doing the search and/or doing it in incognito window in Chrome. See if your results are different.

Well, on the good side, there is only one way to go...

Hi,

My suggestion is that it is possibly to do with particular keywords. Someone may put me right on this but you could have higher ranks etc loads of link juice but if there are particular keywords that are well used by the offending site then it might be that.

Our 10 point drop is on a https site