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    • DonnieCooper
      DonnieCooper last edited by

      What's the benefits of choosing an mvc framework such as codeigniter or cakephp over wordpress?

      Wordpress has so many plugins, and a universally known UI for customers, it just saves a ton of time.

      However, a lot of the 'big guys' like SEOmoz and Distilled(?) use Cakephp and other mvc frameworks so it has me wondering what the benefits are......

      anyone?

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      • WebMarkets
        WebMarkets last edited by

        Not a huge fan of WordPress. But if you know WordPress, you would really like DNN.

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        • copykatrecipes
          copykatrecipes last edited by

          I had the most horrible experience with Joomla, Joomla is why I went to wordpress.  I had continual hacking when my site was on Joomla.  Is anyone using frameworks such as genesis or thesis?

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          • voitenkos
            voitenkos last edited by

            Another great option to consider would be Drupal CMS / CMF, where CMF stands for Content Management Framework. Drupal has a huge list on contributed modules that just make your life so much easier. It has better user-roles and permissions architecture than WP. Also the list of SEO related modules that let you tweak everything on your page (titles, urls, etc.) Drupal also provides an editor backend so editors can manage posts and pages. MemCached and Boost will make your drupal site faster and more accessible by search engines as well.

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            • Dan-Petrovic
              Dan-Petrovic @goodnewscowboy last edited by

              I'm also curious to hear why change to Joomla? I find WP to be a superior solution in many ways although not as robust as drupal and others. The support network for it is amazing and the number of plugins available for it outweight many limitations it may have as a platform.

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              • DonnieCooper
                DonnieCooper @caseyhen last edited by

                Thanks Casey..

                that's the part that was stopping me from wanting to use mvc... having to build/ maintain a different backend for each site. It just seems too redundant. Even with 'objects', you still have to update specific lines of code for each customer everytime you improve something.

                Thanks for your help!

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                • caseyhen
                  caseyhen @DonnieCooper last edited by

                  Personally if I had a choice I would use WordPress every time, since it provides my clients with access to a "backend" where they can edit pages and such if needed.  CakePHP is for hard core people who love to write code and such.

                  I don't think we have plans to switch to that, though I'm not always in the loop on things like that.

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                  • DonnieCooper
                    DonnieCooper @caseyhen last edited by

                    Hey Casey,

                    Is that really the main difference? Just more control because your writing everyline of code manually?

                    PS. Is SEOmoz going to switch to lithium (http://lithify.me/) ?

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                    • caseyhen
                      caseyhen last edited by

                      Hey Donnie,

                      I've used both CakePHP and WordPress to some degree, in fact SEOmoz's main site is built on CakePHP.  I'd say that for someone with limited coding knowledge, I'd send them to WordPress because of all the plugins.  If you have a good handle on PHP and like creating your own plugins then first up CakePHP.

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                      • goodnewscowboy
                        goodnewscowboy last edited by

                        Changed my profile pick a month or so ago. I miss seeing my old dog Boozie though.

                        I switched from WP to Joomla because at the time, WP wasn't as ecommerce friendly. And I picked Joomla over Drupal because the general consensus was that while Drupal was more flexible, Joomla had an easier learning curve.

                        Good luck with whatever new CMS you choose.

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                        • DonnieCooper
                          DonnieCooper @Getz.pro last edited by

                          Thanks, Richard.

                          I definitely keep a subscription going with lynda.com. I think we should get SEOmoz.org to add them in the discount store.

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                          • Getz.pro
                            Getz.pro last edited by

                            If you need to add to your PHP knowledge, try Lynda.com

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                            • DonnieCooper
                              DonnieCooper @goodnewscowboy last edited by

                              -Hey, you changed you photo! (Or, I haven't noticed until now).

                              What made you switch to joomla?

                              I'm in love with wordpress, but for some reason, I feel like mvc would be worth the switch. The only problem is, it comes at a higher cost of time invested per project. So, I'm looking for motivation to make the switch 🙂

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                              • goodnewscowboy
                                goodnewscowboy last edited by

                                Hey Donnie: While I'm only a former Wordpress user and current Joomla hack, I would guess that the MVC frameworks give them more flexibility. Though that flexibility vomes at a price of having to be more proficient at PHP.

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