The Moz Q&A Forum

    • Forum
    • Questions
    • Users
    • Ask the Community

    Welcome to the Q&A Forum

    Browse the forum for helpful insights and fresh discussions about all things SEO.

    1. SEO and Digital Marketing Forum
    2. Categories
    3. SEO Tactics
    4. Link Building
    5. How does this site rank higher than a seemingly better one??

    Moz Q&A is closed.

    After more than 13 years, and tens of thousands of questions, Moz Q&A closed on 12th December 2024. Whilst we’re not completely removing the content - many posts will still be possible to view - we have locked both new posts and new replies. More details here.

    How does this site rank higher than a seemingly better one??

    Link Building
    3 3 3.1k
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as question
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Kibin
      Kibin last edited by

      Ok, I'm really trying to wrap my self around all this SEO stuff.  Right when I think I'm grasping it, I come across something like this.

      When running a keyword difficulty report for the term "essay editing", the top two results are:

      www.papercheck.com/essay-editing.html

      www.gradesaver.com/essay-editing/

      The first result has a PA of 37, 2 linking page domains, DA of 48, and 197 root linking domains.

      The second has a PA of 65, 32 linking page domains, DA of 68, and 2,572 root linking domains.

      What the heck is going on here!?!?  I can't understand it.  I checked anchor text and that doesn't appear to be it.  The only thing I can find is that the papercheck has a link from a site (marketwire) with a DA of 90 while the #2 guy's highest linking domain has a DA of 60.

      However, I have a really hard time wrapping my head around this considering the total linking domain stats compared to one another.

      Any insight is much appreciate... this is frustrating trying to grasp these situations!

      Thanks!

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • MattAntonino
        MattAntonino last edited by

        You're not considering a lot of factors that go into SEO:

        1. Page speed could be better on #1.

        2. Over optimization on page 2 - with many links with anchor text that includes "editing"

        3. "editing" appears 80 times on page 1, 66 times on page 2, despite page 2 having more text.  I'm not saying this is a case of keyword density/spamming it, but maybe they're on the line and #2 is under it.

        4. Better overall inbound link authority to #2 possibly.

        5. Page 2 has repetition of both keywords in the title.  Google already punishes this if you don't have noODP by replacing your title with a more suitable one.  They aren't big fans of duplication but even so, #2 has a much different title.

        6. Co-citation.  Even with a better DA and PA, the related inbound links may be more relevant to essay editing on page 1.  Also, more domains may point directly at the subpage essay-editing.html than they do the absolute page at /essay-editing/index.php

        7. Analytics matter.  If #2 bounce rate is double #1, and the time on site for #1 is 4 minutes longer per visitor and they get more traffic through an email list that actually stays on site, they'd have a natural boost in the "analytics" department, as well.

        There are always a million reasons why one site could or may outrank another.  All you can realistically do is improve your site as much as possible, create relevant links back, get citations that all match, engage on social and have a site that responds well when people click it.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
        • Andropenis_Australia
          Andropenis_Australia last edited by

          The seo moz stats for a site is not the exactly same as what google uses to determine authority/trust so just because one seems to have more authority does not mean google thinks it is more relevant.

          Hence why even some new sites with minimal back links can outrank some very trusted sites on the same topic.

          Welcome to the wonderful world of seo, strap in and get comfortable because it's a never ending journey.

          All the best 🙂

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • 1 / 1
          • First post
            Last post

          Got a burning SEO question?

          Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.


          Start my free trial


          Explore more categories

          • Moz Tools

            Chat with the community about the Moz tools.

            Getting Started
            Moz Pro
            Moz Local
            Moz Bar
            API
            What's New

          • SEO Tactics

            Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers

            Content Development
            Competitive Research
            Keyword Research
            Link Building
            On-Page Optimization
            Technical SEO
            Reporting & Analytics
            Intermediate & Advanced SEO
            Image & Video Optimization
            International SEO
            Local SEO

          • Community

            Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!

            Moz Blog
            Moz News
            Industry News
            Jobs and Opportunities
            SEO Learn Center
            Whiteboard Friday

          • Digital Marketing

            Chat about tactics outside of SEO

            Affiliate Marketing
            Branding
            Conversion Rate Optimization
            Web Design
            Paid Search Marketing
            Social Media

          • Research & Trends

            Dive into research and trends in the search industry.

            SERP Trends
            Search Behavior
            Algorithm Updates
            White Hat / Black Hat SEO
            Other SEO Tools

          • Support

            Connect on product support and feature requests.

            Product Support
            Feature Requests
            Participate in User Research

          • See all categories

          • Multiple guest posts from one site have any effect on rankings?
            SamCUK
            SamCUK
            0
            2
            766

          Get started with Moz Pro!

          Unlock the power of advanced SEO tools and data-driven insights.

          Start my free trial
          Products
          • Moz Pro
          • Moz Local
          • Moz API
          • Moz Data
          • STAT
          • Product Updates
          Moz Solutions
          • SMB Solutions
          • Agency Solutions
          • Enterprise Solutions
          • Digital Marketers
          Free SEO Tools
          • Domain Authority Checker
          • Link Explorer
          • Keyword Explorer
          • Competitive Research
          • Brand Authority Checker
          • Local Citation Checker
          • MozBar Extension
          • MozCast
          Resources
          • Blog
          • SEO Learning Center
          • Help Hub
          • Beginner's Guide to SEO
          • How-to Guides
          • Moz Academy
          • API Docs
          About Moz
          • About
          • Team
          • Careers
          • Contact
          Why Moz
          • Case Studies
          • Testimonials
          Get Involved
          • Become an Affiliate
          • MozCon
          • Webinars
          • Practical Marketer Series
          • MozPod
          Connect with us

          Contact the Help team

          Join our newsletter
          Moz logo
          © 2021 - 2026 SEOMoz, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. All rights reserved. Moz is a registered trademark of SEOMoz, Inc.
          • Accessibility
          • Terms of Use
          • Privacy

          Looks like your connection to Moz was lost, please wait while we try to reconnect.