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    • Red_Spot_Interactive
      Red_Spot_Interactive Subscriber last edited by

      Hello Moz World,

      I'm wanting to know the best practices for utilizing a subdomain versus a subfolder for multi location businesses, i.e. miami.example.com vs. example.com/miami; I would think that that utilizing the subdomain would make more sense for a national organization with many differing locations, while a subfolder would make more sense for a smaller more nearby locations. I wanted to know if anyone has any a/b examples or when it should go one way or another?

      Thank you,

      Kristin Miller

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      • Red_Spot_Interactive
        Red_Spot_Interactive Subscriber @TheeDigital last edited by

        Hi Richard, I understand that it gets posted about in fair detail , but I do feel that the issue of when trying to create a branded enterprise for an SMB that's trying to move toward franchising is typically not addressed. This was a particular situation I was inquiring about not just a general inquiry about subdomains versus subfolders.

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        • LindaBuquet
          LindaBuquet last edited by

          Good points all Richard!

          "Those that don't have Google+ and haven't setup social and other profiles or have NAP listings typically rank poorly even if they are EMD."

          Yes, sorry I should have qualified I was only talking about local listings in the pack. In regular organic it's somewhat different. The specific potential benefit I was pointing out, only works for local pinned listings. And Google mainly seems to still like EMDs and PMDs in local pack listings .

          But like you said you can't just do any one thing and expect to rank. You can have a subdomain or even an EMD and if everything else isn't optimized well or there are violations or the competition is stronger, you still may not rank.

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          • TheeDigital
            TheeDigital last edited by

            Linda, I think the reason EMDs still work is because of their citations and links from those and branded profiles. Mostly, these type of links don't show in tools like OSE and Ahrefs. If you really look, those that have an address, and Google+ listing will have a lot more listings elsewhere because of syndication and include keyword rich titles, content on the page, etc. Those that don't have Google+ and haven't setup social and other profiles or have NAP listings typically rank poorly even if they are EMD. The other trend I've noticed is that some of these rank well for variations of their phrase (because I feel they are getting special treatment as a brand) but for something in the same niche but not included in their brand terms, they don't necessarily rank well for.

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            • LindaBuquet
              LindaBuquet last edited by

              However, just an FYI with something else to consider. I've been meaning to do a post about this with examples, so this Q will hopefully motivate me to get it done...

              We know how Google loves EMDs and PMDs in local. In competitive markets they are usually the ones that rank on top.

              If the link on the G+ L page is domain.com/miami. Then what shows on the G+ L page AND in the SERPs is simply domain.com

              However if the link on the G+ L page is miami.domain.com then city ends up showing on the domain on G+ L and in the SERPS.

              Example: See Mr Rooter in the B spot here: https://www.google.com/search?q=memphis+plumber
              In the SERPs in the URL Memphis is highlighted by Google since the query was Memphis Plumber.

              And Memphis is in the URL on the G+ L and shows up like this: memphis.mrrooter.com where otherwise memphis would be cut off and not showing on the page: https://plus.google.com/101436210710682267977/about  (Not a client or anything, just one of many random examples I've been collecting for my subdomain post)

              Now I'm not saying you should use subdomains just for this reason. And not even saying it will necessarily help ranking, even though I've seen tons of subdomains that rank high.

              Just throwing it out there for consideration and think the benefits should be weighed against the other pros and cons.

              What do you think? Do you think having city in the URL in the SERPs and on the G+ L page could possibly help with ranking in that city?

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              • MiriamEllis
                MiriamEllis Subject Expert last edited by

                Hi Kristin,

                While I don't have any a/b testing to share on this, I personally prefer the subfolder approach and would write the URL:

                domain.com/miami

                I simply find subfolders easier to work with, but that's a matter of opinion.

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                • TheeDigital
                  TheeDigital last edited by

                  This is probably the number one question asked in the Q&A section. I think it gets answered about every week. Subfolder is preferred as subdomains can potentially be treated as a separate website. Keep them in subfolders and you'll help the entire site.

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                  • Red_Spot_Interactive
                    Red_Spot_Interactive Subscriber last edited by

                    Additionally, for a larger practice I feel that a subdomain logically makes more sense to be able to market a franchise as a whole. Then utilizing the subdomains to optiize an individual location level.

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