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Hi, kudos to you for taking this on...

yes, it takes a few weeks for them to update the moz bar with new fresh metrics upon the latest crawl... they used to crawl every 20 to 30 days, sometimes longer intervals... I'm not up to date lately as to the actual frequency for the Mozbot crawls, but you should see the metrics soon if you've done the homework properly: 301 redirects, execute the  'change of address' trigger via Search Console from http to https....re-submit your xml sitemaps under https, etc...

I also assume that you have no mixed content on your site anymore, meaning internal links pointing to the right version of your pages and resources: image urls, etc... otherwise if you only rely on the 301s it take a lot longer to get Google to index your https pages...

hope that helps, good luck!

david

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Update I've just bothered going to the Dev Blog: https://moz.com/devblog/category/archives/linkscape/  and can read that Mozscape data hasnt been refreshed in the last few weeks + on top of that there were some issues with the index in feburary. That may explain why you are not getting Moz link data for your new https site?

Hi Cyrus,

thanks for taking the time to explain... this comes in as very useful answers at the time where I'm writing directives for some architectural changes at work.

I have just two further questions to get full understanding into your replies:

Re: 1. when you say "each blog post is linked to several juice-passing category links"... do you actually mean within the body of the posts. I have looked at a few and cant see links to categories within the body, but just the ones on top that go: "Posted by Rand Fishkin to Marketing Industry" ... where 'Marketing Industry' is one of the categories... is that the link-juice passing link you refer to?

Re: 4... I guess you meant "when we moved the categories onto the non-html pull down section..."    or did you actually mean to write  "sidebar"?   I asked because as far as I remember the blog categories have always been on the sidebar, just in a different shape?

cheers
David

Chris, I am sorry if you think my response was abrupt...  I actually got the impression that you hardly read my question, hence my reaction.  By all means I didnt mean to diminish or undervalue your efforts to help the community, but perhaps you can consider to cut down your contributions : less but better responses.  Things like the  TAGFEE mention and "great content" thingies only sound like the usual MattCutts-style patronising responses, I am sorry to say. But hey thanks for trying to help anyhow  

@moz - anyone out there to add any insights to my questions ?

david

Hi Chris, thank you for the prompt reply,
Excuse me for sounding naive, but could you shed some futher light on the point that you make about the canonical tag? I am not sure I get it.  Are you implying that if a page contains a rel canonical then the overall linkjuice for that page cannot be sculpted?

The reason why I suggest that they are sculpting PageRank in some way is because they've moved their blog category navigation (on the blog pages) from crawlable (as far as I remember),  to non crawlable. So they are 'apparently' making economies on the level of linkjuice that flows out of each blogpost. My question/doubt is simple. Although you may be right that they have not done that with any intention. It'd be good to hear from them.

As for your last paragraph, with all due respect, I'd say well done for earning 3 more moz points on your profile for a very  irrelevant reply. I'm not here to discuss the best way to help the users creating "great" content but simply seek input/opinions from experts or the Moz team on a specific aspect of their technical webpage layout and built. Thanks for trying hard anyway

David

I've only just noticed that the Moz' blog categories have been moved within a pull down menu. See it underneath : 'Explore Posts by Category' on any blog page.

This means that the whole list of categories under that pull-down is not crawlable by bots, and therefore no link-juice flows down onto those category pages.

I imagine that the main drive behind that move is to sculpt page rank so that the business/money pages or areas of the website get greater link equity as opposed to just wasting it all throwing it down to the many categories ?  it'd be good to hear about more from Rand or anyone in his team as to how they came onto engineering this and why.

One of the things I wonder is: with the sheer amount of content that Moz produces, is it possible to contemplate an effective technical architecture such as that?

I know they do a great job at interlinking content from one post onto another, so effectively one can argue that that kind of supersedes the need for hierarchical page rank distribution via categories... but I wonder : "is it working better this way vs having crawlable blog category links on the blog section?  have they performed tests"   some insights or further info on this from Moz would be very welcome.

thanks in advance
David

Hi Ricky, how big is this site... I have done this 3 years ago on a site I manage of about 100 pages. It worked fine from the first day. My main drive for this though was: I had one horizontal nav on top with no value links which the client insisted in having plus the beefy left hand vertical nav with the right keywords in. In the code I displaced the top horizontal nav to the bottom as and kept the left hand side vertical navigation on the top (codewise). It works wonderfully and no issues with Google at all.

cheers

david

Hi, kudos to you for taking this on...

yes, it takes a few weeks for them to update the moz bar with new fresh metrics upon the latest crawl... they used to crawl every 20 to 30 days, sometimes longer intervals... I'm not up to date lately as to the actual frequency for the Mozbot crawls, but you should see the metrics soon if you've done the homework properly: 301 redirects, execute the  'change of address' trigger via Search Console from http to https....re-submit your xml sitemaps under https, etc...

I also assume that you have no mixed content on your site anymore, meaning internal links pointing to the right version of your pages and resources: image urls, etc... otherwise if you only rely on the 301s it take a lot longer to get Google to index your https pages...

hope that helps, good luck!

david

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Update I've just bothered going to the Dev Blog: https://moz.com/devblog/category/archives/linkscape/  and can read that Mozscape data hasnt been refreshed in the last few weeks + on top of that there were some issues with the index in feburary. That may explain why you are not getting Moz link data for your new https site?