... unbelieveable. Thank you for the work-around, but right, not immediate results. So much has changed over the last couple years with SEO, but wouldn't you still want some idea as to the rank of a keyword... ? I'm wondering if searching the first 5 pages myself in Google would be any less mind-numbing?
Posts made by CeCeBar
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RE: Bulk Upload to Rank Tracker?
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RE: Bulk Upload to Rank Tracker?
As much as I want to like Moz, this is one of the things that keep me from understanding MOZ - something so simple as to check the rank for a bunch of keywords you're researching - to have to load each keyword one at a time in Rank Tracker seems more than ridiculous. I must be missing something - I must be.
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RE: Would duplicate listings effect a client's ranking if they used same address?
Miriam,
Thank you very much. I believe I am starting to see the whole picture of possibilities for this drop in rank. And excellent info about Google Places.
I do need to visit the Places help forum and add it to the list of resources!
Much appreciated.
_Cindy
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RE: Dropping dramatically in keyword rankings
I think basically Mark is right, good be a combination of items. I would need to sort through the first suspicions on the sudden drop and also address some of the suggestions from Mark - competition, and most definitely optimizing the site, I can only hope the client will move forward with implement ion.
thanks again for assistance.
_Cindy
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RE: Would duplicate listings effect a client's ranking if they used same address?
Perfect, thanks Cody, helps a lot.
And thank you for advice on matching contact page and Google Places!
_Cindy
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Would duplicate listings effect a client's ranking if they used same address?
Lots of duplication on directory listings using similar or same address, just different company names... like so-and-so carpet cleaning; and another listing with so-and-so janitorial services.
Now my client went from a rank around 3 - 4 to not even in the top 50 within a week.
-- -- -- Would duplication cause this sudden drop?
Not a lot of competition for a client using keyword (janitorial services nh);
-- -- -- would a competitor that recently optimized a site cause this sudden drop?
Client does need to optimize for this keyword, and they do need to clean up this duplication. (Unfortunately this drop happened first of March -- I provided the audit, recommendations/implementation and still awaiting the thumbs up to continue with implementation).
--- --- --- Did Google make a change and possibly find these discrepancies within listings and suddenly drop this client's ranking?
And they there's Google Places:
Client usually ranks #1 for Google Places with up to 12 excellent reviews, so they are still getting a good spot on the first page.The very odd thing though is that Google is still saying that need to re-verify their Google places.
I really would like to know for my how this knowledge how a Google Places account could still need verification and yet still rank so well within Google places on page results? because of great reviews? --- Any ideas here, too?
_Cindy
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RE: Dropping dramatically in keyword rankings
Mark,
Thanks so much for your reply, apologize for the delay. I can't add many more details, this client has had a website, for last 5 - 6 years now, family-owned for 35.
The drop in rankings for my client happened suddenly - some gradual fall the first week, 2 - 3 in rank; and then "bam" the next week not even in the top 50. This was 2nd week of March. The client has still not moved forward with my recommendations for offsite or onsite optimization.
About a year ago the client completed a new design - very professional, but lacking in some basic onsite optimization - proper use of keywords, headings, meta-descriptions, etc... some visual and user issues - though the latter minor.
Not a lot of competition online, just very basic info-type, homemade websites, still they were ranking in top 10 (keyword - janitorial services nh). I did notice a new competitor after checking out the most recent top 10 rankings - and this competitor put in a little work to optimize the website- but that's only one of all the top 10.
Was there any new changes in Google around March of this year that could have effected such a sudden drop?
_Cindy
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About private questions
Seems my last private question was on March 23 -- so why would I have to wait until June to ask another?
I believe I made a reply right at the first of April, which wasn't answered... and I haven't asked another private question yet... not that I have one now, just wonder why the wait that seems longer than a "calendar month"?
_Cindy
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Dropping dramatically in keyword rankings
One of my clients has always ranked well for this keyword (janitorial services, nh).
Then within a week, they dropped out of the top fifty in Google and now in other major search engines as well.
My first thought of why the drop in rankings is due to duplicate listings within online directories. The previous marketing person on staff was listing the company more than once in these directories, and it wasn't discovered until later in the link building process.
Sometimes the company was listed with "janitorial services" as part of the company name, and then listed again with "carpet cleaning" as part of the company name... sometimes with duplicate address, or using the po box instead - as if two companies.
The odd thing in all this is that while they dropped in ranking for this keyword, they still come in usually 1st in Google Places for this keyword with 12 excellent reviews. And yet when I check their Google Places account, it says that it needs to be reverified, again, it doesn't meet the terms. (company is a family owned business, for over 30 years, they have a lot of potential).
So all this duplication needs to be fixed, but how serious are duplicate listings on places like Manta, YellowPages, SuperPages, also Yahoo Business Local and Bing Business Directory?
And now that "forensics" seems to be my task, any suggestions on how to start? Any processes I should go through with Google WebMaster?
_Cindy
And, too, if I could add, the site ranks very poorly for this keyword and while I have provided recommendations, and they understand the onsite issue, they have yet to go forward with implementation, making this a little more difficult issue.
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RE: How to write 301 redirects in WordPress
OK, so simple 301 redirects seem to be working out fine.
But having a thing for a puzzle, and thus far learning more about htaccess, I am wondering why a simple rewrite... or "redirect" rule would not work. Like this:
RewriteRule ^(./blog)$ http://cmsearchmarketing.com/blog$1.php [R=301,NC]
or this
RewriteRule ^./blog$ http://www.cmsearchmarketing.com/blog [R=301,NC]
(...and this goes into the old site htaccess with the old domain name, NOT the new site with the new domain name; and the new site basically has all new page names.)
Where in the htaccess file would it go... after the WP permalink rule - considering I am using permalinks on the site and writing the rules with the permalink structure?
Can I write a rule such as this and redirect to another domain all together?
When would I use [L] for last rule?
And what's the difference in a rewrite and a redirect?
OK, if anyone is pursuing and can help I would appreciate.
Thank you very much._Cindy
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How many steps for a 301 redirect becomes a "bad thing"
OK, so I am not going to worry now about being a purist with the htaccess file, I can't seem to redirect the old pages without redirect errors (project is an old WordPress site to a redesigned WP site).
And the new site has a new domain name; and none of the pages (except the blog posts) are the same.
I installed the Simple 301 redirects plugin on old site and it's working (the Redirection plugin looks very promising too, but I got a warning it may not be compatible with the old non-supported theme and older v. of WP).
Now my question using one of the redirect examples (and I need to know this for my client, who is an internet marketing consultant so this is going to be very important to them!):
Using Redirect Checker, I see that
http://creativemindsearchmarketing.com/blog
--- 301 redirects to
http://www.creativemindsearchmarketing.com/blog
--- which then 301 redirects to final permanent location of
http//www.cmsearchmarketing.com/blog
How is Google going to perceive this 2-step process? And is there any way to get the "non-www-old-address" and also the "www-old-address" to both redirect to final permanent location without going through this 2-stepper?
Any help is much appreciated.
_Cindy
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RE: How to write 301 redirects in WordPress
Didn't understand the link you gave...
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RE: How to write 301 redirects in WordPress
So is the redirection plugin installed on the old site (that's a different domain name), and can the target url be an external link?
The source URL cannot be an external link, right?
Cindy
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RE: How to write 301 redirects in WordPress
Thank you for answering.
None of the pages are the same name on new site as on the old site.
However, the blog posts are the same. And if i could use a redirect for all pages on blog that would help.
But when I use the cpanel wildcard, or rules to the htaccess file, I do not get one page corresponding to the new page, - all old blog posts go to the home page.
_Cindy
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RE: How to write 301 redirects in WordPress
Thanks for your reply.
The old site theme isn't supported anymore, cannot update WP beyond 2.9.1.
Does this simple 301 redirect plugin need to be on old site or new?
So if old domain name is different than new domain name, can I use this plugin?
_Cindy
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How to write 301 redirects in WordPress
I've successfully migrated new site to new domain (www.cmsearchmarketing.com)
But I cannot get 301 redirects for pages and blog posts to redirect from the old domain (www.creativemindsearchmarketing.com).
And it's my understanding I need to do a 301 for each page to maintain SEO.
Here's what I've tried:
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} ^p=975$RewriteRule ^index.php$ http://www.cmsearchmarketing.com/top-5-questions-to-ask-an-seo-firm-before-signing-up/? [R=301,L]
BEGIN WordPress<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c="">RewriteEngine OnRewriteBase /RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-fRewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-dRewriteRule . /index.php [L]</ifmodule># END WordPress
#AND ALSO#
Use PHP5 Single php.ini as defaultAddHandler application/x-httpd-php5s .php
BEGIN WordPress<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c="">RewriteEngine OnRewriteBase /RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-fRewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-dRewriteRule . /index.php [L]</ifmodule># END WordPress
redirect 301 /top-5-questions-to-ask-an-seo-firm-before-signing-up http://www.cmsearchmarketing.com/top-5-questions-to-ask-an-seo-firm-before-signing-up/
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
_Cindy
P.S. Maybe some other issues are in the way:
--Old site is WP-Remix theme no longer supported, and latest WP version is 2.9.1
-- Old domain (www.creativemindsearchmarketing.com) is the primary account on BlueHost …and the new domain (www.cmsearchmarketing.com) is an addon, so the new domain's directory is within root of old domain.
-- in root domain of old site there are other "handler files" that also have base file rewrites, if this is an issue:
name of this file in root directory is:
.htaccess.addHandlerBak-FrontPage-
<limit get="" post="">order deny,allowdeny from allallow from all</limit><limit put="" delete="">order deny,allowdeny from all</limit>AuthUserFile /home/creatjo7/public_html/_vti_pvt/service.pwdAuthGroupFile /home/creatjo7/public_html/_vti_pvt/service.grp# BEGIN WordPress<ifmodule mod_rewrite.c="">RewriteEngine OnRewriteBase /RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-fRewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-dRewriteRule . /index.php [L]</ifmodule>
END WordPressAuthName creativemindsearchmarketing.comIndexIgnore .htaccess /.?? *~ *# /HEADER /README /_vti
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RE: Setting up Google Analytics default URL
Got it, very helpful - thanks so much!
_Cindy
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RE: Setting up Google Analytics default URL
OK, thank you.
If I understand correctly, the tracking code for a single site did the work of tracking visitors, and the 301 redirect didn't change the tracking results -- even though the "301 redirected address" was at one time different from the "GA default url."
If I may ask, what is a hostname injection? And if possible please explain a use case example where hostname injection is used.
_Cindy
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RE: Setting up Google Analytics default URL
Everything is consistent now - 301 redirect to www, default url in GA set to www.
Tracking code has remained the same within cms because the GA account's url was changed to go to www.
It is a matter of too many chefs in kitchen and no one had control of entire picture at one point.
My question really is... when there was inconsistency in web address from 301 redirect (www-address) and the GA default url (non-www), why was GA still receiving traffic?
And how much can one rely on older metrics when this inconsistency was in place?
_Cindy
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Setting up Google Analytics default URL
If someone has set:
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the default url in Google Analytics to a non-www address (http://mysite.com)
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then placed the UA tracking script from that GA account within the CMS framework of the website...
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... and then set the permanent 301 redirect in the htaccess file to redirect to the www address (http://www.mysite.com).
How less accurrate will my GA analytics measurements be considering the default url within GA is non-www and the permanent 301 redirect in htacess is to the www-address?
Anyone know how reliable GA reports are until the default url in GA analytics is changed to match what is the redirected url in htaccess file?
_Cindy
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Google Webmaster redirect vs 301 redirect
OK assuming a client's website has the right tracking script (hopefully analytics isn't effected by this issue),
... what happens if the htaccess file has a 301 redirect to the www-address, but within Google Webmaster Tools, the address chosen to crawl by Google is the non-www address?
How will Google handle and which address takes precedence in this situation?
_Cindy
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After purchasing the 2011 MozCon Video Bundle how long will it be available online?
I bought the MozCon Video Bundle - how long will I be able to access it online?
And how do I access it online - keep clicking the promo icon?
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RE: Anyone having issues using Keyword Analysis and Rank tracking lately?
OK, thank you. Very popular tools I believe.
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Anyone having issues using Keyword Analysis and Rank tracking lately?
Seems it works once, maybe, then replies with a message that it can't complete the process when trying another keyword.
_Cindy Barnard
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RE: Not sure which URL to use for 301 redirect
Not this time, but will keep it in mind.
Thanks again.
_Cindy
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RE: Not sure which URL to use for 301 redirect
So at this point, without a lot of established inbound links, either URL would be OK?
I have heard arguments for using www and non-www. But no matter which one, having the redirect will change their rankings a bit?
_Cindy
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Not sure which URL to use for 301 redirect
A client has new website design completed by another developer, was launched in April of this year. No 301 redirect was set up so duplicate content is an issue.
Client has had a website with same domain name for about 10 years, but has not had any SEO work completed before or since his new site design.
For non-www there are 6 referring links - 1 considered to have authority, for www there are also 6 but 3 considered to have authority.
More links seem to coming from www than non-www.
But for one of the clients keywords they are ranked #1 for their area and that links to their non-www address.
And even though no redirects set up by developer, non-www has had far more visits according to Google Analytics.
So many basics that still need to be done for site: no meta-descriptions on any page, H1 and page titles could use keywords, call to action moved above fold, etc.
Considering this is a new site, and new SEO work and many more inbound links needed, does it matter which address I redirect to?
_Cindy Barnard