good observation. let us know how you get on. Thanks

HI Rand, I understand where you are coming from as SEOmoz is a white hat community. However, when I started my business and did not know anything about SEO, I used these spam techniques for the simple reason I didnt know any better and thought that was SEO. Does this make me bad? I dont think it does. Since then, 5 years ago I have come a long way in SEO and consider myself a white hat marketer.

I wouldn't want to put my business at risk with dodgy SEO techniques. However, I did when I was clueless. Now I want to fix it. I'm sure many webmasters on this forum are on the same boat as me.

"simply fell down in the SERP"

you say it like it means nothing....

already mentioned on the post Alan

we need a new sub forum to deal with all this and have all answers and questions in one place.

Peoples business's are being ruined, we need to all come together in one place and learn from each other to get over this as quickly and painlessly as possible.

Please like this and I will email SEOmoz to see will they do it. Thanks

Its nothing got to do with the site in question. Its purely negative SEO. Read the case study about "Dan Thies" who says he is the SEO to Gurus and knows Matt Cutts on a personal basis. They targeted his website and got it off the ranks in about 1 week. He was ranked page 1 for "SEO" and "SEO services" now he is nowhere to be found.

Reading these two articles made me feel sick. People are actually offering a service to de-rank a website.

I could have swore I heard Matt Cutts say this was not possible, well the results are in.

This really opens up a whole new can of worms for google.

http://trafficplanet.com/topic/2369-case-study-negative-seo-results/

http://trafficplanet.com/topic/2372-successful-negative-seo-case-study/

This is only going to get worse as news like this will spread like wildfire. In one sense, its good these people have done this to prove it to google its just a pity they did it on real business's that rely on traffic.

Nop, not true at all, I ranked a a fairly competitive keyword No.1 with an exact match keyword domain name, we only focused on 2 variations of a keywords and no penalty.

we need a new sub forum to deal with all this and have all answers and questions in one place.

Peoples business's are being ruined, we need to all come together in one place and learn from each other to get over this as quickly and painlessly as possible.

Please like this and I will email SEOmoz to see will they do it. Thanks

HI Rand, I understand where you are coming from as SEOmoz is a white hat community. However, when I started my business and did not know anything about SEO, I used these spam techniques for the simple reason I didnt know any better and thought that was SEO. Does this make me bad? I dont think it does. Since then, 5 years ago I have come a long way in SEO and consider myself a white hat marketer.

I wouldn't want to put my business at risk with dodgy SEO techniques. However, I did when I was clueless. Now I want to fix it. I'm sure many webmasters on this forum are on the same boat as me.