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Hi community friends.

Ive have started to work on our 2.0 e-commerce store mostly when it comes to design and the ux.  Its a woocommerce setup and in total we have 34 products!

We have e niche site where we sell products as a system towards the building industry. Each product served its purpose within a construction detail and needs some explanation for a first time user/customer. So, first thing  we did now was to ad the short description to our loop to bring some more info to the user and guide them in the right direction quick.

Now the products are divided in to four categories. We actually gain a lot of traffic from those category landing pages and i am not so eager to change the way the products are categorised.

The old menu where built up by a sidebar with links to the different categories and to tags pages. Where the category where for example "Adhesive" and the Tag "Seal a window from the outside". The category gives the broader direction, and the tag gives the final usage/solution/purpose with the product.

In the 2.0 we would like to remove the sidebar in the product pages in favor for a full widht product page with more focus on the product and the specs. This leads us to put our navigation up in the main menu part for the desktop version.

Now to the questions.

1. Do you think that we are doing it the right way, to niche and set the final usage/path to our products with tags, or should it be done in another way?

2. For the UX, do you think that removing the sidebar navigation on the product pages will lead to a worse user/shopping experience?

Attached you can see some pics from our dev server where the new menu are being built up, and also the new product page layout. Please give me some feedback!

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That lead me to the right direction!

Got it all working with price excluded in the rich snippet, still validating as a product with reviews, sku and description.

My solution..

Create following directories:

wp-content/themes/[your_theme]/woocommerce

wp-content/themes/[your_theme]/woocommerce/single-product

Create price.php and ad it to /single-product

Ad this code to the custom price.php

if ( ! defined( 'ABSPATH' ) ) {
exit; // Exit if accessed directly
}

global $product;

?>

get_price_html(); ?>

// Jonas

Hi Tymen and thanks for your respons! Then i can proceed as planned!

Thanks Logan for your respons! Gives me the guts to go forward with our planned change.

Our e-commerce solution is WooCommerce, and i have read somewhere that variations creates their own urls and therefore can be punished as duplicate content. Any thoughts on that?

I had this question before and was not fully satisfied with the answer..

We are selling adhesives and some of the products have the same name and description, the only thing that separates them are the width on the roll..

Are old/online setup are as following, each product has its own product page with more or less the same description. For example here http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-2-100/ and here http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-2-150/

The above product pages are for a product called Fentrim 2. its availiable in widhts from 75 to 300mm.. so, its six diffent products pages with more or less the same description. The other variations of the products besides the width. are Fentrim 20, Fentrim IS 2 and Fentrim IS 20.

So this gives us

6 x Fentrim 20 product pages with the same description, just the width that changes.

6 x Fentrim 2 product pages with the same description, just the width that changes.

6 x Fentrim IS 20 product pages with the same description, just the width that changes.

6 x Fentrim IS 2 product pages with the same description, just the width that changes.

I get that this can cause us problems in the terms of duplicate content.

The plan that we have now is to have 4 different product pages with variations instead. For each of those for product pages we have well written and unique content. And have the old ones 301 redirected to them. Like this

http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-2

http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-20

http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-IS-2

http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-IS-20

Today we gain traffic from one product page per variation and it seems that google has picked those ones out randomly, see the attached screenshot..

Will we loose rank? will this increase our position, whats your ideas?

// Jonas

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Hi,

Just want to ask you guys if i have missed something in my planning.

We have done a migration from Ithemes Exchange to woocommerce. The complete migration are done on our dev server. It has an exakt setup as our live one.

My plan is to change our live version with a backup from our migrated and finished site from our dev site.

All of our product links will be intact with accept from some that we have combined in to new ones, the ones that are changed has been redirected with a 301.

Will this way of launching our site effect our ranking/seo in some way?

Thankful for any thoughts about this one!

// Jonas

Thanks for the great responses!

Ive read the info that Gaston posted and some more..

Ive decided to go for the change and strip out the /product-category/ to leave space for the keyword that we are ranking for.. Ive added support in our design for textbased category description and that should work i guess.

As long as i do a 301 redirect from the old http://domain/product-category/Key1 to http://domain/key1 it will be fine right?

Thanks!

/ Jonas

Hi!

Today we have our product categories indexed (by misstake) and for one of our desired keywords, a category have the nr 1 rank. By misstake, we didnt set nofollow, noindex on our categories, just tags, archives etc.

We are now migrating to from Ithemes Exchange to Woocommerce and ime looking on improving our SEO urls for the categories.

For keyword "Key1" we rank with this url: http://site/product-category/Key1. The seo meta title and description where untouched when we launched the site last spring so it doesnt look so good..

The plan is to stripe out product-category and instead ad some description ( i have a newly written text of 95 words, 519 letters without space with they keyword precent 5 times in a natural way  ) to that particular category and have the url as following: http://site/key1 and then have a 301 redirect for the old http://site/product-category/Key1.

What do you think of this? What shall i consider? on the right track?

Grateful for any help!

// Jonas

Hi Peter and thanks for your respons!

Any tips on how to do this patch in an easy way?

Our startpage http://siga-sverige.se/ and http://siga-sverige.se/butik/ shows the same woocommerce loop of all our products. Shall i set canonical url for http://siga-sverige.se/butik/ to http://siga-sverige.se/?

Thanks!

/ Jonas

Our site has their prices hidden for non logged in users.

Its a woocommerce built site and the rich snippet markups are added by woocommerce.

I would like to remove the markup for the price becouse : 1, we would like our customers to register for prices. 2 i dont want to get penalties for not showing the same thing to visitors as to "google" ..

Any help or thoughts on this one?

Thanks

/ Jonas

Hi again Dirk,

One last question. What if we got the variations to work with our shipping demands.. Would the absolute best solution to have a single product page, with variations.. And the canonical urls for the variations that woocommerce creates set to the main product page?

In that case i would be able to get better content for the main product page and hopefully it will rank higher and stand stronger against competitors. Also it would limit the duplicate content that we have today?

If i follow this solutions i would need to set up 301 redirects for the old product pages right?

Thanks!

/ Jonas

Hi Dirk,

Thanks for the response.

Your answer raised some thoughts.

The plan was to have a new product as the landing page and the page where I would focus the content on..

It could be divided in to a category but our layout doesn't give any good room for the product content..

And, we also rank for all of the versions of the product. As I described, each fentrim adhesive comes in different widths,  and also versions that named IS 20, 20, see the attached screenshot for a Google search for fentrim at SE Google.

Any ideas?

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Hi!

Ime quite new to SEO and to woocommerce so please  help out with this one.. We are migrating from Ithemes Exchange over to WooCommerce and i have come up with some issues.

We are selling adhesives and some of the products have the same name and description, the only thing that seperates them are sometimes the widht, or the length on the roll..

As we have it now we have a separate product page for each widht and length. For example here http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-2-100/ and here http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-2-150/

The above product pages are for a product called Fentrim 2. its availiable in widhts from 75 to 300mm.. so, its six diffent products pages with more or less the same description.

I get that this will create duplicate content, couse the description on the pages are similar.. We cant use variations in woocommerce, couse this cant be set up to exactly match our shipping needs, so, we need them on separate pages..

Soo, my plan is to set a new product page for Fentrim 2, ex http://siga-sverige.se/siga/fentrim-2 and then set that url as canonical url for the variations of the product.. Am i on the right track?

Gratefull for any help on this one!

/ Jonas