You're right of course, they're exactly the same... I could have sworn there were more factors in one than the other a couple of weeks back.
No wonder you weren't sure what I meant, it made no sense lol
Thanks Rand
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You're right of course, they're exactly the same... I could have sworn there were more factors in one than the other a couple of weeks back.
No wonder you weren't sure what I meant, it made no sense lol
Thanks Rand
Yeah I think it's almost difficult to see it anyway as it's so random and isn't affecting the SERP's in general... it just seems to be literally "some" SERPs. I wish I could give an example.
Maybe I'm just becoming more and more paranoid lol
I mean, like the complete opposite of what Panda is supposed to be doing...
We've just had a discussion here and each went through a bunch of examples of sites that have sprung up and are ranking with the worst, spammiest backlink profiles ever, and poor content with little to zero on-page SEO.
It's not accross the board by any means, and certainly there is no obvious pattern but there were a fair few examples we just looked at (I best not provide them for ethical reasons).
It just "feels" like there's something going on...
Could be awesome for Moz... think of all those potential new Pro memberships! People that exclusively used YSE that now need an alternative, testing out OSE, seeing how good it is and checking out the 30 day free trial then staying once they realise what they've been missing
In the theme of Keith's "While I have your attention..." On the campaign on-page report cards, could we have something (at some point) implemented so that we can input upto three keywords instead of just one?
Also, are you aware that there are more results fed back for the on-page reports when using it as an external tool rather than going through the campaign manager?
Hehe you're going to wish you did answer the question in here as more people use the "While I have your attention..."
I was just thinking, now that YSE is finally about to become no-more, that's likely to mean OSE and Majestic get an influx of people who previously used that mostly... I wonder if there will be numbers enough to clog things up and slow things down?
Maybe it just seems like their are millions of us SEO's in giant herds marauding the plains of the web when in-fact there's not that many of us really, and we get a distorted, non-relative view of numbers due to being immersed in it.
There's definitely ten times more than there was three years ago... I know some of you old fogies (just kidding) have been going a lot longer than that but the UK had a tiny fraction of agencies offering SEO of what it does now.
*I reckon there should be a new question topic added for people like me, called random nonsense or something... I didn't know what to select for this question
Haha no worries, sounds like something I would do lol.
I do intend to get the Mozcon ones too at some point so it's still good to know
Now I'm really confused hehe... how does the Distilled site know that I'm a pro member here? Or are we not talking about buying from the Distilled store?
It's okay Jane came to my rescue on FB and I think is going to ask one of you guys where I can get the code if there is one out there
Thanks
LoL, no that's not real SEO, it's fake SEO and won't do anything for you. It's the kind of stuff that worked years back when no-one else was doing it.
Aside from that, you won't get good SEO for those sorts of low costs anyway... I have a tantrum about it here if you're interested in knowing what to avoid
Do SEOmoz Pro members get the discount code for the SearchLove videos? I've looked on Pro perks but can't see anything
There is more covered (in terms of checking on-page factors) when using the external report tool than when using the actual campaign one... will the external features be added into the campaign one?
Dupe content is pretty severe, enough to cause your problems easily... try that software, I found a tonne of dupes on a large site with it that we'd have never found without it as it looks for chunks of text and consecutive words and phrases with the body text as well as sidebars, etc...
Ah, well spotted!!
Yeah sorry Jamie lol.
Yeah I should do that really. It's strange when it happens, it's not timing out or anything it logs me out when it happens. So I'm logged in, I post a comment and then it returns me to the page but logged out with my comment disappeared into thin air.
It must be something to do with sessions and all that I guess.
Wow yeah that is something special!! Choose a Distilled conference in the UK, come visit us across the pond!!
Yeah I know what you mean with the spacings, etc... it can be annoying... even more annoying is when you spend a while typing up a response, click "post reply" and then it disappears lol. Doesn't happen often thankfully but each time it does I tell myself to remember to copy/paste into notepad next time but I always forget.
I wouldn't worry about the spacings, etc... too much though mate, with answers that to go above and beyond the call of duty like that I'm sure people aren't too worried about paragraphing.
Jeez Ryan, no wonder you got Oracle with posts like that lol... congratulations on that by the way!! I don't suppose you can give a clue on what the "Something Really Special!" is?? haha
I guess you don't have to do the same with all pages. Just pick three that aren't performing that well, ensure they don't have extra link building over other pages so you know it won't affect the outcome too much across all three, and then make the on-site pages to see what happens with just those pages
Okay it looks to me like too many internal links off the homepage to spread your equity flow to the right internal pages.
You could also ensure the content of pages is higher in the source, make URL's more friendly by adding "watches" or something into the products as well as the brand name instead of "-c-24.htm", etc... and get another partial match keyphrase into the title tag instead of the same title tag ending for all products.
Hiya, yes Google has always penalized pages not just whole domains... but you're noticing it now due to Panda and its updates. As you said you're worried about duplicate content try this: http://www.dcfinder.com/ I only came across it the other day but it's pretty good for dupe detection
There could be something else causing it though, lots of people are seeing the same thing as yourself... difficult to pinpoint the issue sometimes though, especially without the website URL
Yeah I see a tonne of this stuff but to be honest I just always use my better judgement and assume it as a scam, closing the window. However, you're quite right... not all web users are used to seeing this stuff and having that reaction, therefore there is bound to be some people that through no fault of their own are naive enough to fall for the scam and end up getting screwed over in some way or another.
I guess there must be something in it for the people who do it though, or they wouldn't continue doing it... sort of like the emails I get from Nigeria asking for my bank details... some people must give them or they'd have stopped by now. Such a shame, but in time with the younger generations being so internet savi I assume it'll die out, or at least I hope so.
You need to visit kaushik.net. Avinash has got a bunch of really cool ways to measure mutli-channel for offline as well as online.
I would guess it's too complex for a person to be able to explain in an answer on here as it's something that needs comprehensive instructions really. Try this: http://www.webanalytics20.com/ and you'll be sorted I think he has some videos on YouTube that might help too.
Hehe I felt the need to go check out the pope's new site from that, nice amount of links as one would expect but some awful on-site... the whole thing is an image, and then tables instead of CSS on other pages... and no analytics
"Ask them if they ever hunt rabbits.
Then ask if they try to kill them by shooting straight at them or if they try to hit them with a ricochet. :-)"
EGOL, it may get me into trouble but I swear to god I am actually going to do that... I'm going to ask them that exactly how you've said it because I just won't be able to resist it now lol.
Thanks... for the burst of laughter and for the answer I needed!
P.S. All Viewers: Before anybody points it out, I know god is meant to have a capital G but I'm an anti-theist and refuse to give it upper-case on principle (I get corrected on that purposeful typo a lot so thought I'd nip it in the bud this time).
Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking but then could they be right? I mean there doesn't seem to be any data anywhere to show if it does have an affect on the linked-to page (however minimal). Somebody somewhere must have tested it.
It does make sense to keep it seen as a moved page and not a new one to keep whatever trust it's built up but surely as an internal page, any new page that replaces it wouldn't take long to pull that same trust back in anyway (this is based on the fact that it's not exactly got a lot of equity anyway).
Well yeah that wouldn't be too many at all, but then going back to what Marcus and EGOL said you're much better off using bold tags for readability reasons than simply using it on keywords really. It has little to no impact in terms of rankings (probably a tiny bit) but can have a much greater impact on keeping your visitors moving forward and converting if used to break the content up into more digestible chunks with a good scent of what's important to them and where their eyes should go next.
I'd probably use bold a few more times in a 500 word piece but use it as what it is, an emphasis tag Not emphasising keywords for Google but whatever it is in the content that will encourage the user to feel they're in the right place... if that happens to combine with some keywords or keyword phrases then great, but don't see it as a game-changer for rankings
After following what the others have said on here about sorting the site out first, when you move on to link building, don't go crazy with keyworded anchor text on spammy sites. Go for branded anchor text first then move on to partial and phrase match as well, then mix in some exact match... all from decent sites. That's if you build the links yourself, but it's always preferable to have content that good that you just attract links naturally anyway... go for both approaches
Google Analytics can do most of what springmetrics does and none of what the SEOmoz tools do. They're quite different pieces of kit... for SEO, I mean not just measuring but doing, there's no way I'd trade SEOmoz for anything, let alone something that can't do any of the stuff I need it to.
The Q&A alone on here is worth the spend, then you've got the crawl errors, OSE, a whole host of other tools... and that's not to mention the stuff they're working on at the moment to come out soon. You'd be mad to swap out, especially as the two options are miles from "like for like" in terms of what they do.
Spring Metrics = Analytics tools
SEOmoz = SEO tools
I suppose if you were going to look at it as "how many is too many" though it would be a percentage density instead of an actual number because it would depend on the size of the piece.
If you had a 1,000 word page then 50 words in bold might look okay but if it were a 100 word page then 50 words in bold would be ridiculous.
I've recently come across this:
A site changes the URL of one internal page to something more search friendly, and 301's the old to the new as you would expect.
They don't change the link on the homepage in the navigation. Instead they keep it to the old URL so they go through the 301 to get to the page even though it's internal.
They say if they change the URL it will reset the internal flow of link equity to that page.
I've not come across this before and so am not sure what to think. I mean I can see what they're saying but I would have though that it being internal would mean it's different and that the flow to internal pages would just kind of resume as-was quite soon afterwards.
Any views?
I've played about with it a bit, it's pretty cool. At first we were worried about the footprints it leaves all-over everything but with it being free, a simple plug-in, etc... there's going to be more and more people using it all of the time for legit reasons (as opposed to content networks, etc...) meaning footprints won't be a problem.
Ah lol... thanks Tom. That's the best news ever. The reason I posted that question was that I was in a bit of a debate with a friend at work about the impact of link velocity, and I was sure I'd seen it on there before and said so, but then he brought it up on the screen and proved me wrong... but clearly the version we were looking at then wasn't the full one. This means I can go back to him tomorrow and win
I owe you a beer I think!
How come there's no reference to link velocity in the Search Ranking Factors, 2011 or prior?
We know that we have to continue building links for a client even if they're already doing well, not just because of the competition nipping at their heels but because if we stop they slip down anyway, so we know that stopping link building will often times have an adverse effect... meaning link velocity right? So how come there's no mention of it?
Just curious
I do it. Unfortunately it's sometimes necessary when there isn't enough of a budget for creative, etc... (small businesses that can afford nothing more than the cheapest of cheap links). It's not the right way to go though, and certainly not in the long term, but for some businesses it's the only chance they have to compete.
Easy, for something like that you don't link build at all, you just publish, publicize and promote. I assume that it's original and news-worthy content if it's a newspaper, so interesting stories, etc... In which case all you need to do is get it out there in front of people and the links will come naturally.
It's something to do with setting campaigns through the URL builder tool isn't it?
I'm looking forward to it and fidgety in apprehension Can't wait!!
Thanks, yeah the video says pretty much what I was thinking, that whilst PR isn't worth obsessing over, it is worth watching (i.e. as a sign of Google's reactions to stuff, such as penalties)... I stopped watching it all together about two years ago but it seems I need to start watching it again.
Up until today I was anti PageRank, believing that it was a useless metric which just caused obsession and misplaced working effort... however, as of today I have done a complete u-turn and been shown how it is still useful as a trigger monitor type thing which is awesome.
Just wondering what others views were on this?
Is it a shared server you moved to? You could be sharing with a dodgy site that's got a blacklisted IP.
Yes, it's not good practice so you'd do well to avoid it. I don't know in a technical sense whether Google would decide that a page that has a similar title to it's description would make any ranking difference, but if a bunch of pages had the same titles as each other then it definitely isn't good. Also, descriptions should be tailored to that individual page anyway, with whatever helps to encourage a click, which it wouldn't be if it was too similar to other pages.
And forget about the Meta Keywords tag, it's useless
So now that Google are going to remove 3rd party citations from listings, will they still carry the same weight for local rankings or will this be reduced? If so, how much and when?
LOL, the fact that there's a tonne of clearly spun content won't help. I gather this is part of a content scraping or sharing network like LinkVine?
Have you tried reading the articles published? Could do with some quality guidelines for what gets accepted imho
Even when it gets indexed, it's not going to rank anywhere... this is exactly the kind of site that Panda wanted to stop. Regurgitated, nonsensical, spun, tosh that looks as if it was written by a lunatic and only really exists for the sake of its outgoing links, that point to other rubbish.
I'd tell your friend to give up on this site entirely and start looking at less automated ways of doing things. Google is only going to get tougher and tougher on these sites so he's fighting a losing battle.
I don't mean to be rude but I hope it doesn't get indexed ever, what value does it offer to anyone for anything? Most people don't want stuff like that clogging up the web. I don't mean to sound harsh but tell your friend the problem with the site is.... it's crap.
This is purely a guess, but I'd try the following:
Remove the ad at the top (it "could" be construed as misleading as it appears much like an internal navigation menu, with the links that are showing there seeming like links people should click on for categories on the site, when in fact it's an ad).
Then submit a re-inclusion again.
It's the only thing that really stands out to me.