Getting pages that load dynamically into the SE's
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SEO'ers,
Am dealing with an issue I cannot figure out the best way to handle. Working on a website that shows the definitions of words which are loaded dynamically from an open source. Source such as: wiktionary.org
When you visit a particular page to see the definition of the word, say; www.example.com/dictionary/example/ the definition is there. However, how can we get all the definition pages to get indexed in search engines? The WordPress sitemap plugin is not picking up these pages to be added automatically - guess because it's dynamic - but when using a sitemap crawler pages are detected.
Can anybody give advice on how to go about getting the 200k+ pages indexed in the SE's? If it helps, here's a reference site that seems to load it's definitions dynamically and has succeeded in getting its pages indexed: http://www.encyclo.nl/begrip/sample
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I see what you mean there - thanks for sharing your expertise and views on this issue. Much appreciated
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The only way I'd let those pages be indexed is if they had unique content on them AND/OR provided value in other ways besides just providing the Wiki definition. There are many possibilities for doing this, none of them scalable in an automated fashion, IMHO.
You could take the top 20% of those pages (based on traffic, conversions, revenue...) and really customize them by adding your own definitions and elaborating on the origin of the word, etc... Beyond that you'd probably see a decline in ROI.
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Everett, yes that's correct. I will go ahead and follow up on what you said. I do still wonder what the best way would be to go about getting it indexed - if I wanted to do that in the future. If you could shed some light on how to go about that, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much in advance!
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It appears that your definitions are coming from wiktionary.org and are therefore duplicate content. If you were providing your own definitions I would say keep the pages indexable, but in this case I would recommend adding a noindex, follow robots meta tag to the html header of those pages.
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Hi Everett, I've been looking at the index for word definitions and there's so many pages that are very similar to each other. It's worth giving it a shot I think. If you can provide feedback please do. Here's the domain: http://freewordfinder.com. The dictionary is an addition to users who'd like to see what a word means after they've found a word from random letters. You can do a search at the top to see the results, then click through to the definition of the word. Thanks in advance
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Ron,
We could probably tell you how to get those pages indexed, but then we'd have to tell you how to get them removed from the index when Google sees them all as duplicate content with no added value. My advice is to keep them unindexed, but if you really want them to be indexed tell us the domain and I'll have a look at how it's working and provide some feedback.
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Hi Keri, did you think that the site might get penalized because it would in essence be duplicate content from another site? Even though the source is linked from the page? Please let me know your thoughts when you can
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No they currently do not have additional information on them. They are simply better organized on my pages compared to the 3rd party. The unique information is what drives visitors to the site and from those pages it links to the definitions just in case they're interested understanding the meaning of a word. Does that help?
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Do the individual pages with the definitions have additional information on them, or are they just from a third party, with other parts of the site having the unique information?
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Hi Keri, thanks for your response. Well, I see what you're saying. The pages that show the definition pulled from the 3rd party are actually supplementary to the solution the site provides (core value). Shouldn't that make a difference?
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I've got a question back for you that's more of a meta question. Why would the search engines want to index your pages? If all the page is doing is grabbing information from another source, your site isn't offering any additional value to the users, and the search engine algos aren't going to see the point in sending you visitors.
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