Updated site with new Url Structure - What Should I expect to happen ?. Also it's showing PR 1 for my urls on Opensite explorer
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Hi All,
We updated our website with a new url structure. Apart from the root domain , everyother page is showing up in opensite explorer with a page rank 1. Although we only went live with this yesterday, I would have thought that the 301's etc from the old urls would be coming through and the PR would show ?..
I am not familiar what to expect or what alarms bells I need to watch out for when doing this type of thing although I would probably expect a small drop in traffic ?..I don;t know what the norm is though so Any advice greatly appreciated?
thanks
PEte
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When you say page rank, do you mean Google's Page rank or do you mean Moz's page authority, from Open Site Explorer? If you mean Moz's page authority, that measure should go up, though I don't know how long that would take. You might need to wait till there is another crawl.
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Many thanks Gazzerman1 .
Pete
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Your 301's if setup correctly will work fairly quickly in Google and should see results for your main pages within days sometimes hours depending on the sites popularity/crawl rate.
pagerank has not been updated since last november according to John Muller at Google and will not ever be updated again. It is still an internal metic used by Google but the latest data is no longer available to the public. So your pages will likely never have visible page rank again.
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