What the hell that iframe is doing?
-
I have a competitor using a technique I don't understand. But which seems to work.
Basically in the homepage has a
<noscript>area with a bunch of internal links to pages like:</p> <ul> <li><a href="foo.com/keyword1">keyword1</a></li> <li><a href="foo.com/keyword2">keyword2</a></li> <li><a href="foo.com/keyword3">keyword3</a></li> </ul> <p>Inside these pages there's an iframe with the site homepage url as source, within the iframe tag there's some text (less than 100 words) with some emphasis on the keyword and a link back to the home using keyword as anchor text.</p> <p>All the pages are in the sitemap and indexed, and when you open one you are shown that page (no 301 redirect).</p> <p>Technically those are not doorway pages, because there's no 301.</p> <p>The website has a much weaker backlink profile than others, but does rank pretty well with better positions for those keywords, for many is the TOP 1 (with the url of the homepage, not the iframed pages).</p> <p>And I don't understand why. I understand the usage of the iframe to have the same content as the home page, but without being detect as duplicate content.</p> <p>And I can guess google crawler does crawl the <noscript> links follow them and.... And since the page is basically empty should not do much. The url of the page with the iframe includes the keyword, but doesn't sounds like such a powerful signal to be sent back the homepage thanks to that link contained within the iframe tags.</p> <p><strong>Does anyone have any idea why it works?</strong></p></noscript>
-
I was thinking about the iframe passing juice. Apparently that was 'confirmed' a few years ago, but I never messed with it. It seemed kind of silly to rely on it, since it could be so easily detected. I don't know if the tactic has been 'disproved' and they're spinning their wheels.
I wonder what would happen if they fixed the non-www DNS failure?
Other than that, I think I see 'slow drip' link building.
But given that the home page seems to do better than any of the other pages I've seen, it may be safe to say the iframe tactic might work a little. The site's overall visibility appears to have steadily increased over the last four or five years.
Another possibility, and I wouldn't doubt they've tried it, is CTR bots.
I guess we should look into other domains that refer to |-| /\ppy flow eye tea.
-
As far as I understood from reading in google product forum for GWT, the content of the <iframe>is supposed to pass juice like link title and image alt but it's more powerful. Yet I have no idea how authoritative the guy saying that is.</p></iframe>
-
I got distracted from this thread. I see the iframe pages. I have a hunch, but I'm not ready to render an opinion.
It's hilarious that they actually styled one of the tables as 'linkfarm'. SMH
-
No idea?
-
Hi Travis, maybe my original description was not clear enough.
Open the homepage of their website, look at the source html, hunt for the
<noscript>section, take the first link:</p> <p><a href="http://www.italgommepneumatici.com/vendita-gomme-online/vendita_gomme_online.html">vendita gomme online</a></p> <p>"vendita gomme online" is a good keyword with a good conversion rate if you sell tires, open that page: http://www.italgommepneumatici.com/vendita-gomme-online/vendita_gomme_online.html</p> <p>and again look at the source code, <strong>you will find the iframe</strong>, and between the opening and closing tag a bunch of links, some linking back to the homepage with the same keyword "vendita gomme online"</p></noscript>
-
I've learned one thing especially and that is: Don't try to learn Italian from a tire website. XD
I didn't find an instance of an iframe. There is a reference to iframe in the CSS, but no style is in place for an iframe. Though they do use a lot of JQuery, however.
Fun thing I learned today: noscript can be crawled and rendered. Just check the cache. The only thing that's actually cached in the corpo are the contents of the noscript tag. Weird, but apparently possible.
But if there's one thing I do know, at least at this moment, it's that a lot of vendita gomme aren't held to the highest standard. Also, this site's conversion rate will continue sucking eggs - as long as they require someone to create an account to purchase.
Otherwise the site just loads fast as hell, even in the US, and it's keyword stuffed to the Nth from the src up. In sum, I need to learn Italian and sell tires.
-
Hi Travis, don't worry I am not that paranoid, competitor: http://www.italgommepneumatici.com/
I have no evidence/knowledge of domains redirect to that domain.
Just ask if any other question comes to your mind.
-
Would you be comfortable with PMing the competitor URL via Moz? I'm not interested in taking a client. I'm interested in what's happening. Moz is my witness.
Have you found evidence/considered the possibility that they're redirecting domains to the target domain? It's basically like running on quicksand, but it can be successful for a while. Just like any light switch tactic.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Thousands of links coming from an iframe
We have an iframed calculator on one website (www.renewablesguide.co.uk) which has a text link to another of our websites (www.solarguide.co.uk) which is where the calculator originates. We allow other sites to embed the calculator which gives us the benefit of a followed link back to our site. However in the case of renewablesguide (which we own) we've added a tab to the calculator on every page which GWT shows up as 24 000 links from this site hitting the Solar Guide homepage. As the link is held within an iframe would this amount of links be seen as spammy?
Technical SEO | | holmesmedia0 -
Can iFrames count as duplicate content on either page?
Hi All Basically what we are wanting to do is insert an iframe with some text on onto a lot of different pages on one website. Does google crawl the content that is in an iFrame? Thanks
Technical SEO | | cttgroup0 -
Best way to handle pages with iframes that I don't want indexed? Noindex in the header?
I am doing a bit of SEO work for a friend, and the situation is the following: The site is a place to discuss articles on the web. When clicking on a link that has been posted, it sends the user to a URL on the main site that is URL.com/article/view. This page has a large iframe that contains the article itself, and a small bar at the top containing the article with various links to get back to the original site. I'd like to make sure that the comment pages (URL.com/article) are indexed instead of all of the URL.com/article/view pages, which won't really do much for SEO. However, all of these pages are indexed. What would be the best approach to make sure the iframe pages aren't indexed? My intuition is to just have a "noindex" in the header of those pages, and just make sure that the conversation pages themselves are properly linked throughout the site, so that they get indexed properly. Does this seem right? Thanks for the help...
Technical SEO | | jim_shook0 -
Redirecting ?iframe=true&width=80%&height=80%
I have a extra page that google has indexed: www.jaaronwoodcountertops.com/?iframe=true&width=80%&height=80% Google has it listed as a page with duplicate content as my index page. I've tried to redirect it but the redirect isn't working on this one. Anyone have an idea of how to deal with this guy?
Technical SEO | | JAARON0 -
.com domain is an iframe copy of a .net domain?
Hey folks, This one is over my head. I'm helping out a friend's dental office website (www.capitolperiodontal.com), and their home page source code points to the .net TLD for its content apparently: | | <title></span>http://www.capitolperiodontal.com/</title> http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html" /> rows="100%" id="dd_frameset_0001"> src="http://www.capitolperiodontal.net/" name="dd_content_0001" framespacing="0" frameborder="0" noresize="noresize" title="capitolperiodontal.com" /> <noframes></noframes> My idea was to load all the content from the .net to the .com, then redirect the .net to the .com as it has better domain authority and is, well a .com. Any insights what this iframe biz is all about and if my strategy above is ok? Many thanks folks! john
Technical SEO | | juanzo0070 -
Index Issues with Iframes
I have pages that are being scrapped and displayed in iframes and I wanted to see if anyone could tell me how I could get theses pages to be indexed here is a URL of one of the pages http://coggno.com/onlinetraining/safety-/other/lab-safety-1INde
Technical SEO | | PageOnePowerGang0 -
Iframe & pulling data from higher ranked domain
Hi, i have a question regarding iframes and SEO. I know iframes are bad practice but if you have a brand new domain and want to improve its ranking more quickly, you can host the website file in a higher authority domain, and load an iframe on the new domain. Is this true? For example, if I build and host the website files on www.masterdomain.com (domain authority 48), and then load the pages within an iframe on www.newdomain.com (domain authority 5), will that help increase the domain rank for www.newdomain.com? What are the advantages (if any) and disadvantages for each domain www.newdomain.com and www.masterdomain.com if we do this? Thanks
Technical SEO | | Essentia0 -
Will loading ads in an iframe increase page response time?
We are experiencing slow response time because our pages are ad heavy. If we load ads in an iframe, will the google bots, when indexing the page, count the time it takes for the contact within the iframe to load? Or is that load time separate from the total page response/load time?
Technical SEO | | kbbseo0