Thanks Maryanne,

I will definitely mention those image sizes. They are pretty large.

I need to get an H1 onto these pages. H1's are important, right?

In your opinions, what would be the most effective/least harmful method of doing this....for short term until we can figure something better out.....

1. Set the hidden titles to be H1's instead of H2's?

or

2. Manually go into each page and create an H1 using the post WYSIWYG editor? (Using this method, the H1 would come AFTER the H2, but at least it would not be hidden)

What are your thoughts?

Sheesh...I knew I wasn't losing my marbles when I thought this looked more complicated than normal. This CMS is Drupal.....just FYI, here's what is happening...

These pages are made in a module (equivalent to a plug in for Wordpress) called Panels. With panels, you can define content areas within your page, kind of like creating

sections. Eachsection is called a pane. In this case, they pulled in the information they are showing in each pane through another module called Views. So, on the lt3g page, there are 2 different panes above the tabbed section.

When you create a pane, Drupal asks you for a pane title. The tabs at the bottom are also a module that pulls posts into a tabbed section. Since each post has its own title, each tab shows an H2. In total, there are 10 H2s on this page!!

And the Analytics code is Google anlaytics installed into a pane. (I don't think they had to install the code onto every page, but they did), and they titled the pane 'Analytics'

I think this might be a job for a Drupal themer. Maybe that's what I will propose this company look into.

Also, for the

| FRS Custom Solutions, which indicates there should be something before the pipe, the <title>tag would go before the pipe, and installing the page_title module would allow you to define that.</p> <p>Usually I hear good things about Drupal, but I think in this case, with the use of panels to make pages, it just complicated things.</p></title>

No, I have no control over showing it. Drupal forces you to give each page a title.

http://www.frs-solutions.com/content/comlink-lt3g

Here is a link to one of the inner pages. This page has an image.  But here is a page with no image: http://www.frs-solutions.com/content/Company

I am not knowlegable enough with CSS and creating template pages to go about having the title display as an image on some pages, but as text on others.

Ok. That's what I thought. But I wasn't sure. Do you know, is there any legitimate way to hide a post title (that's forced by the CMS) from both SE's and visitors without using the image swap method?

Hi Richard,

Thanks for your response. Sorry if I was unclear...I am referring to the titles of the post. Not the <title>tag.  Drupal forces you to give each post a title. And yes, the post titles are set to display as H2's, but the H2's in the stylesheet are set to display:none like this:</p> <div class="cssHead focusRow "><span class="cssSelector ">h2</span> {</div> <div class=" "> <div class="cssPropertyListBox "> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class=" ">    </span><span class="cssPropName editable ">color</span><span class="cssColon ">: </span><span class="cssPropValue editable ">#595959</span><span class="cssSemi ">;</span></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class=" ">    </span><span class="cssPropName editable ">display</span><span class="cssColon ">: </span><span class="cssPropValue editable ">none</span><span class="cssSemi ">;</span></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class=" ">    </span><span class="cssPropName editable ">font-size</span><span class="cssColon ">: </span><span class="cssPropValue editable ">22px</span><span class="cssSemi ">;</span></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class=" ">    </span><span class="cssPropName editable ">margin</span><span class="cssColon ">: </span><span class="cssPropValue editable ">0.8em 0</span><span class="cssSemi ">;</span></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class="cssSemi "><br /></span></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class="cssSemi ">There is no image swapping or text indent. So, search engines CAN see the H2, but visitors can't. Would this be considered sketchy or creative CSS?</span></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "></div> <div class="cssProp focusRow editGroup "><span class="cssSemi ">And no, they are not in order... H2 obviously comes first on the page, followed by an H1 element if it's manually inserted onto the page.<br /></span></div> </div> </div></title>

Hi. I am new to this community, and new to SEO as well. A friend asked me to give them suggestions on onsite optimization for their Drupal website.

I know page titles are very important, and usually they should be set to H1. (At least I think) This particular website has all their page titles set to H2 and they are using display:none in their stylesheet to hide them for graphic design reasons.

What would be the most practical work around for this? We don't want this to appear sketchy in the eyes of the SE's, but putting page titles at the top of their pages really would take away from their graphical design.

The second issue is that they use a module called Quicktabs for tabbed product specs on each page. Each tab is actually pulled from a post (called a node in Drupal), so each tab has it's own title that is an H2. So not only are they hiding the main page title, but they are hiding 5 others within the tabs, and their are 6 H2 elements showing up on each product page all set to display:none.

Any creative suggestions?

Hope that makes sense....

Thank you!