Can anybody help me please!
-
Hi,
I'm not an SEO expert! I'm even not a professional Webmaster. I'm a professional "Private Investigator", owner of a PI Agency in Bangkok (Thailand).
Our website (thailand-investigation.com) was ranked, 18 months ago, on the 1st page in Google, Bing & Yahoo search engines for our major keywords!
We are still good in Bing and Yahoo but we dropped to the 5th page and more in Google! I do not know when it happened? I was busy working managing my business and was not taking care on our website (BIG mistake)!I realized it beginning of august 2012.
I redesigned our website, ad content, new pages...Started 2 months ago, but still no result with our home page! The new pages start to show-up!??? But still far away!
I need to understand why? What is going on!? Why Google "de-ranked" us? And what to do to recover!!!
I'm here to learn, try to understand and take your advises!
So, please give me advises and if someone is ready to audit my website and explain me what to do, I'm willing to pay the service [not to much ].
Thanks,
-
Many of us here offer consulting and other services, including myself. I don't feel like this is the place for self promotion, but I will say that there appears to be a number of knowledgeable folks here. And yes, I think the list of recommended companies/individuals is a good place to start.
-
2. I don't know exactly how the button is coded..but basically what you want to do is remove the index.htm from the extension just use the full url href="http://www.thailand-investigation.com"
NOT: href="../index.htm"
NOT: href="index.htm"
NOT: href="http://www.thailand-investigation.com/index.html"3. I completely understand your concern, however great sites with good content attract links by the users. Search engines want to rank sites people actually like and use, great the site for the users, and follow the basic seo guidelines and you'll be pleased with the results.
4. Do Yahoo and Bing still use it? This is a very good question, you'll get different answers from different people.
Google says they don't factor it in,
Yahoo says they don't use it but others say they do,
Bing says they don't use it for good seo, but rather use it as a signal the site is potentially a spam site. So, given that information would you use it?
My opinion is there is no sense in using it, any search engine that will use it to factor a webpage probably sucks so nobody uses their service anyway, and if people actually use that crappy search engine I don't want to be on the sites those people like.
-
Hi Donford,
1. Ok I got it! And did it already in my website!
2. Sorry but as I'm not a professional and never learned I do not know what it is! The home page url is http://www.thailand-investigation.com/index.htm => Right? So how should I write the links to avoid a 301 redirect... Is it => http://www.thailand-investigation.com/ -- only like that? Please advise!
3. yes, I start to understand it! And as I pay him every 12 of each month, I will not renew it!
You are right to say my audience is the customers not the search engines... But if I do not have any users coming to visit my website => I will not have any new customer! The nature of our business make it that more than 80 % of new customers are from search engine queries! Happily, we are in business 10 years already and we have some returning customers, new customers from mouth to mouth recommendation and we have also partner agency working with us for them needs in Thailand! But our business is like others, if we do not have new customers (fast or slow), we'll die!
4. about the meta keyword! Do Yahoo and Bing still use it? If I take it out, will it hurt our ranking in Yahoo and/or Bing? Please advise!
5. about 1 or 2 keyword per pages... I understand and I'm busy to review my pages content to be in accordance with what you say! I do it out of the web for now and after I quit my SEO guy (12/11/12) I'll put it live!
Thanks for the link to the recommended companies!
All further advises are welcomed!
-
Hi Michel,
1. How windows open is a preference thing, I will say the normal behavior is links inside your domain just open in the same window, while external links would open in a new window. Deviating from this behavior is not going to get you penalized by a search engine rather it is going to annoy the hell out of your users, who in turn may not come back to your site. New tab is the same as a new window.
2. The link, what cardigan is saying is your have a link (HOME BUTTON) pointing to a page that gets 301 redirected, instead of making the crawlers bounce around, why not point directly to your root instead of a redirected page?
3. I think your SEO guy is out of date, repeating keywords for the sake of search engines is not the way to design a site. Your audience is the customers not the search engine.
4. The general conscience is that there is no search engine penalty for using the meta keyword tag, however you must realize by putting your keywords up like that you are basically saying to all your competitors these are the keywords i want to rank for.
5. Competing pages are not just limited to those pages, you need to have specific keywords for each page, 1 to 2 that you wish to target, Because you agency name is so specific and long you may want to limit using it in the title tag to 1 or 2 pages.
SEOmoz maintains a list of recommended companies here.
I have never used an external SEO company. Just remember a good SEO company is worth their weight in gold.
-
Hi donford,
First of all, thanks a lot for your help! Really appreciate!
I do not know when our ranking dropped but it was long time before September 2012!
I started to see some "contact form request" drop at the end of last year and some more in April or May this year! But because we still have customers sent to us by mouth to mouth recommendation and contact we've build with some partner agencies, it took me long time to recognize what happened!
I welcome ALL constructive critiques!
Please read the answer I gave to cardiganmedia (here up), about some of the recommendations you gave me!
About the title tag => it has been written by my SEO "Specialist" I out-source! (please read my answer to cardiganmedia about what I think now about this "specialist")!
I'll follow "cardiganmedia" and your advises and today I will start with the "easy to fix points" (Tittle length, target="_self" in stet of target="_blank" links, link to /index.htm change to www.thailand-investigation.com/).
I'll ask you the same as I asked to cardiganmedia => Can you recommend me a SEO consultant (a good one, not like the one working for me now) that I could work with (not too expensive - we are not rich)...
Thanks again for your help and please give me more
PS. About changing target link from target="_self" to target="_blank", do I have to do it also for the links pointing to other websites? Thanks!
-
Hi cardiganmedia,
First of all, thank you for your help!
Answer to your questions:
-
All menu links open in a new window. Why? => When I do it on my computer, it opens a new tab, not a new window. Personally, It is the way I like it (that's why I did it) => easy to come back just close the new tab... But if it is against what Google likes... I'll change it!
-
Home link points to /index.htm, which is then 301-ed. Why? => should I point to "www.thailand-investigation.com/" only to avoid the 301...?
-
You're using a lot of repeating keywords/terms in your title tags. => 3 - 4 years ago, I used a SEO company to bring us to the first page (they did it in a few months) and they gave me a list of keywords to insert a certain amount of time... private investigator thailand 2X | private detective Bangkok 3X... They changed by them self the page <title>and <meta content description></strong>. I the beginning of September this year after understanding that our website dropped, <strong>I employed an other SEO "specialist" and he told me nearly the same!</strong> He changed the <title> and <meta content description> again (into the actual ones). But after 2 months of his services, <strong>I'm not happy!!! It seems like he do not count with Google changes...</strong></p> <p>4) <strong><em>Ditto for descriptions, meta keywords (ditch this) and on-page content</em></strong>. => I understand what you say about to many keywords in the description... But about the meta keywords, you say "ditch this"! I know that Google do not use it anymore but what about Bing and Yahoo? We are still well ranked in them search engine and I do not want to loose the little we still have??? Please advise!</p> <p>5) <em><strong>English landing page basically competes with home page. Each page should have a purpose/target</strong>.</em> => OK, <strong>I understand this and I feel, more and more, that<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> I have to fired my SEO "specialist"</span> (out-sourced).</strong></p> <p>Can you recommend me a SEO consultant (a good one, not like the one working for me now) that I could work with (not too expensive - we are not rich)...</p> <p>Thanks again for your help and please give me more ;-)</p></title>
-
-
Yep. And from the looks of it, typed it at about the same time.
-
Seems like we have basically the same advise
-
Hi Michel,
Based on the information you have provided, the timeline and you domain name. I have a strong suspicion that you were benefiting from PMD or EMD (partial match / exact match) domain names. Google reduced the value of some of these domain types in September.. does that coincide with your traffic / ranking decline?
Further suggestions, I"m not trying to be critical, rather constructive.
1. Site useability, all your links open in new window. That is very annoying.
2. Titles title tags should be no longer then 70 characters everything else after that is ignored. Maximize your titles.
3. Work on link building, not from free or easy directory sites, get high value links from industry related blogs, government sites, business sites, corporate sites.
4. English reword the text to be natural sounding, currently it reads like it has been keyword injected. That is off putting to users.
5. Create a hierarchical structure for the flow of your site. Tailor you keywords to match. You are currently competing with yourself on keywords on about every page and even with your own blog.A good place to start here is at the beginners guide.
Provided you did not received any warnings from Google, I think you're just a causality of an algorithm change, which is rather good, because that means you didn't do anything wrong, you just haven't done enough right.
I believe you to be very well versed in your industry, you just need to present youself that way on your website, avoid trying to make the search engines rank you, rather make your vistors want to come back to your site. In turn they will make the search engines rank you.
Short Answer, the information you provide is great, edit it to sound natural, create a flow for you website, and then work with industry related sites to get links. Follow the basics of SEO and you should find yourself on the first page again.
-
There are lots of issues with your site -- you may not think these all relate to SEO, but some relate to user-experience, which can ultimately make a difference, particularly if you've been slapped by Google as you say. I recommend engaging in a full review of every aspect:
-
All menu links open in a new window. Why?
-
Home link points to /index.htm, which is then 301-ed. Why?
-
You're using a lot of repeating keywords/terms in your title tags.
-
Ditto for descriptions, meta keywords (ditch this) and on-page content.
-
English landing page basically competes with home page. Each page should have a purpose/target.
Nowhere near a comprehensive list, I'm just trying to give you a place to start.
-
-
No the blog started in October 2008! With around 3 new articles per month!
I changed (mostly added) content text after discovering our ranking droped (around 2 months ago)!
Before that I did not change ANYTHING in the main website (except the blog)!
-
Hi Michel is the blog a new addition?
Also did you change your homepage main content (text) ?
-
The only attachment I put is a picture of a button with the inscription"HELP"!
But if you need anything else... just ask!
Thanks!
-
I did not remove any pages or changed any extensions!
After knowing that our rank dropped, I ad some content, ad pictures... but only in the part... And after we already dropped!
Keywords:
- Private investigator Thailand
- Private detective Thailand
- Detectives Thailand...
Also the same with Bangkok & Pattaya (replacing Thailand)...
Thanks!
-
Your attachments aren't showing up.
-
Hi Michael did you remove any pages, or change their names or extensions? Also can you provide us with a couple of major keywords you would expect to be on the first page for?
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
What is the feeliing of "Here's where our site can help" text links used for conversions?
If you have an ecommerce site that is using editorial content on topics related to the site's business model to build organic traffic and draw visitors who might be interested in using the site's services eventually, what is the SEO (page ranking) impact -- as well as the impact on the visitors' perceptions about the reliability of the information on the site -- of using phrases like "Here is where [our site] can help you." in nearly every article. Note: the "our site" text would be linked in each case as a conversion point to one of the site's services pages to get visitors to move from content pages on a site to the sales pages on the site. Will this have an impact on page rankings? Does it dilute the page's relevance to search engines? Will the content look less authoritative because of the prevalence of these types of links? What about the same conversion links without the "we can help" text - i.e., more natural-sounding links that stem from the flow of the article but can lead interested visitors deeper into the ecommerce section of the site?
Algorithm Updates | | Will-McDermott0 -
Help guide pages from subdirectory must be opened in a new tab?
Hi, We have help guide pages for every feature we provide. They been hosted on different sub directory and we linked them from our website pages. Do we need to make these sub directory pages to open in a new tab when clicked from our website pages? Thanks
Algorithm Updates | | vtmoz0 -
Google AMP (accelerated mobile pages), can it be used for non-Google news and Ecommerce Websites?
Mozzers, I've been doing a lot of research on Google's new Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) https://moz.com/blog/accelerated-mobile-pages-whiteboard-friday. From what I'm seeing, these AMP version websites are only for Google News-worthy websites such as New York Times, Cosmopolitan, and the BuzzFeeds of the world. But what about Ecommerce websites like Ebay or Amazon? Will AMP versions of "scotch tape" via OfficeDepot work in the SERP's on non-Google News cards?
Algorithm Updates | | Shawn1240 -
Can you rank without spending lots of money?
Hello Everyone, This is a general question, and its one I have been thinking about recently because I am working on promoting couple of websites. I want to know if it is still possible to make websites rank consistently without spending lots of money. I am self employed, and 5 or so years ago, I remember I did all my own link building/content for about 6 or so websites that I owned, and I managed to make most of them rank consistently. I am not in the SEO business, and I have not touched any SEO type of work for about 5 years now. And I always did it for my own websites/business. I know this is a fast moving industry, and my general knowledge may be a bit out of date. I kind of get the feeling that the days of when small business owners could make a website rank on a shoe string budget and make a bit of money with an online business may have died or is dying. I am a realist and I know that only a very tiny percentage of websites make really good quality/fresh content that everyone wants to reads. I know a common advise is that you should create a site with such amazing content that everyone talks about you and mentions/links to you without you even to need to do any link building. But in my opinion (I could be wrong), but I feel that this probably happens to less than 0.01 percent of websites. And I also know even third rate websites with blogs or content sites charge to post an article with a link. So this makes me think that nowadays you need a good budget and plenty of time to make a website rank. Am I wrong? In today's internet, do you need to spend money to rank? I genuinely want to know peoples experience and or opinion on this subject. Thanks.
Algorithm Updates | | Ryan.Shahed0 -
Dropped off cliff for a partic keyword & can't find out why
At the beginning of Dec we ranked consistently in the top 3 for the keyword 'Suffolk' for the site www.suffolktouristguide.com (apge rank 4, thousands of quality inboud links, site age 5 years +). Since then we've been falling off a cliff and today aren't even in the top 50 for this search term, but most of our othr search terms are unaffected. Our SEOMoz grade remains A for 'Suffolk' and we haven't changed anything in that time that could have had such a material effect (knowingly at least). A similar issue happened to my other site www.suffolkhotelsguide.com back in April and it hasn't recovered despite grade A's on the homepage and key pages. We've checked internal broken links, page download times, external links (used the disavow tool and reconsideration request and got back 'We reviewed your site and found no manual actions by the webspam team that might affect your site's ranking in Google'); etc etc Any thoughts on what I can try next? All suggestions appreciated as I am completely stuck (& have spent a fortune on 'SEO experts' to no effect).
Algorithm Updates | | SarahinSuffolk0 -
Help with local Seo?
Hi, I am really struggling with current predicament i find myself in. I am a small to medium sized business based in Newcastle in the UK and am trying to rank well locally for the keywords that i feel my customers will be searching for locally. I have got to the stage where i am on page 1 of google uk or nearly there but cannot compete against the national companies who have the search terms then just add pages for virtually every city in the country. For example my main product is "Artificial Grass" and my city/town is Newcastle This is where my office is and where my customers are. This is also where my google places page states. Now theres a company that sells Artificial Grass called www.asgoodasgrass.co.uk that are based no where near but use the power of there site to come up in every local search by adding a page "Artificial Grass Newcastle" as well as hundreds of others. They rank 3rd and im 8th. There actual Newcastle page is poor, where as i put everything into my page including pics, video etc. Still no joy. I feel i am always going to rank behind these big boys even though i am the actual local company and have no intention of working others area that are not local to me. By the time i rank behind the above type companies and the likes of yell.com i feel i am never going to be seen and fall back on expensive adwords to help me along. I am a complete newbie at this and would love any help or tips you could give to give me a fighting chance in my area. My site is www.totaldrivewaysne.co.uk incase you want to look as you will have gathered my other primary product is driveways for which also i feel like i have a million competitors! many many thanks for any responses John
Algorithm Updates | | totaldriveways0 -
Can you be both penalised and uplifted in SERPS?
hello everyone, We've literally had dozens of high ranking pages which are location specific, wiped out of the Google.co.uk SERPs. Can't imagine that it is anything other than a manual penalty but no message has been sent by Google. For example "campervan hire surrey" would produce our surrey page at the top of the SERP, now this page has completely disappeared. On the other hand, we have been promoted on national keywords like "vw campervan hire" and "campervan hire" where we are second and third. Does anyone agree that this is a penalty?
Algorithm Updates | | swimwithfishes0 -
SEO Faith Shaker... help!!
Something has happened which is, well inexplicable to me... I'm stumped! We have a client that has two sites which compete for the same keywords. One is a .com, the other is a .co.uk. They have different content so there's no dupe worries. We have, for the past few months been carrying out SEO for the .com site. It's doing great. We don't do anything with the .co.uk site, which, incidentally dropped from 2nd (under the .com) to 9th after Panda for its main keyword. The owner of the site has switched the .co.uk to Wordpress and now that site, with the same content, same links, same social signals, etc... (nothing was done to it except the platform being changed) has suddenly shot up above the .com for not only its main keyword but most of the others too. What gives?? It doesn't even have a link from the .com site! So, the .com which has undergone SEO is now being beaten by the .co.uk which hasn't. The .com is still directly underneath it. It feels like all of the things we know about SEO, all of the ranking factors and everything are being totally undermined here, just due to a change to Wordpress. Surely that can't be it?? The .com is an older domain, has more content, has always done well, has more links and from better places, and all the social stuff surrounding the business is targeted at it. This isn't a penalization issue or anything like that, this is simply a matter of the .co.uk suddenly blasting above everything for no apparent reason. Any ideas?? I know that there "might" be a tiny, tiny, tiny advantage of the country TLD but that's not enough to do this, and the .co.uk always did worse before.
Algorithm Updates | | SteveOllington1