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    • PottyScotty
      PottyScotty last edited by

      Because H1 "may" carry some  weight with Google does it have to be placed at the top of the page?  Can I place it towards the bottom of the page instead in normal body size?  My goal is to keep the main keywords in the H1 but create a much friendlier title for the customer to read at the top of the page.

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        PottyScotty @TextMarketing last edited by

        Thats exactly what we are thinking of doing 😉 Make h2 bigger and at the top and H1 lower down and less obvious.   I'm glad that the feedback has been the same as what we feel.

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          PottyScotty @TomRayner last edited by

          yeah it confirms what I feel thanks

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            TextMarketing last edited by

            Because H1 tags are meant be explain what the page is about, it's good practice to have them at the top of the page. If you absolutely want to have a friendlier title, make it an H2 that is styled to be bigger than your H1, and style an H2 for that main header of your page. Does that make sense?

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              TomRayner last edited by

              The role of an H1 influencing rankings has certainly diminished, but I would still say it's worth having a keyword in there.

              What it sounds like to me is that you're designing your page around the user first, and SEO/H1s second and that's exactly how it should be.

              Now, in theory, the higher up you can have the H1 tag the better - as search engine crawlers do crawl linearly from top to bottom - and it is has been said that the crawlers sometimes do not crawl the entire page. For that reason, you'd want it nearer the top as possible.

              But I'd certainly not want to skew the flow of the site just to force an H1 tag to appear higher - certainly not in this day and age where the H1 is less of a ranking factor.  I'd be confident that by having it in there somewhere in the of your site is more than good enough.  If you want, visit the site that's linked in my profile - we actually use an H1 tag that's lower down the page as well and not had any worries over it thus far.

              Hope this is some use to you!

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