Bad if Hosting Company Performs Domain Migration
-
InMotion Hosting hosts our domain.
At the moment, we use domain "A". Domain "B" redirect to domain "A" . Domain "B"" better represent our brand and we want to redirect domain "A" to "B". Our website is designed in Wordpress. It contains about 750 pages.
At the moment we do not have an SSL certificate. I would like to add the SSL certificate at the same time we migrate the domain. The data we collect on the site are company name, phone number, email address etcetera. No transactions. I was told that the Auto SSL free certificate is fine and that there is no need to pay for a certificate. Is this correct?
My developer has told me that installing an SSL certificate would take about 8 hours. And that migrating the domain would take 24 hours, plus or minus 5 hours. My developer is very professional, and usually does a great job but this seems costly considering a $24/hour labor rate. It also seems like an inordinate amount of time.
Several well rated (100% approval) Upwork developers are willing to perform this job for less than $200. Huge differential!!
Also, Inmotion Hosting is willing to migrate the site and install the certificates for free. But pay nothing and the quality is usually questionable. Any thoughts??
Also, I have a lot to lose in terms of SEO if something goes wrong. Are there any specifications that I should insist on to make sure the migration proceed smoothly? What do I need to modify on Google Analytics once the migration is done. Any steps I should take to ensure the maintenance of page rank?
Thanks!!!!
Alan -
The WP migration plugins I'm referring to do a rewrite of the URLs in the database. And yes, this is critical to a solid migration, instead of using redirects. There are a number of WP tools for this. My preferred tool is BackupBuddy (paid- 40% off this month) as it does an excellent job of the migration and is then a top-notch tool for managing the ongoing backing up of the site, as well as helping create a staging version of the site for future dev and maintenance purposes. I've also used the free Duplicator plugin for one-off migrations, and have used Updraft Plus on occasion as well.
The majority of the work is in tuning up the site after migration, and yes, making sure all the related functionality and tools have been updated as well.
My timeline would look something like this:
- Create addon domain in hosting cPanel for new domain and enable AutoSSL certificate - 15 mins
- Use migration plugin to move site to new domain - 1 to 1.5 hours depending on experience
- Run quality Assurance testing to insure all of site and functionality is running properly under new domain and HTTPS, including updating CDN and testing forms - 1-2 hours.
- Review and update 3rd party tools and off-site profiles - 2 hrs
- Implement final DNS changes and redirection of old domain to new, add change of address in Google Search Console - .5 hr
- Miscellaneous, including setting up backup protocol for new domain - 1 hr
- (And don't forget 3-4 hours of careful monitoring and followup for any errors over the following 4-6 weeks after migration, plus earning of new links to the new domain, and getting existing links replaced with new ones to the new domain where possible.)
For a total of about 6 or 7 hours for the migration work itself.
You're right, a clearly laid out and well-priortised project plan for this kind of migration is absolutely essential. You need to know exactly what's going to be done, and in what order, so you can insure all necessary steps are taken. To be blunt, many devs (even really good ones) don't take into account the extra details necessary in migrations like these that an experienced SEO pays attention to.
Having all the images on Amazon CDN actually simplifies the migration somewhat as those images will not have to be moved during the changeover, just have the CDN adjusted instead. The SSL should absolutely be installed on the new domain before migration - otherwise, you are going to add a lot of wasted time and complexity rewriting the database URLs a second time after the domain name change to update them to HTTPS.
Paul
-
Do you think the entire process should take 3-5 hours or more like 5-10 hours?
Also, we use Amazon CDN to host our images. So maybe this adds a few more steps.
I am willing to invest more for a good job, but 8 hours for SSL install and 24 hours for domain migration sounds excessive.
-
Hi Paul:
Thanks for this most detailed response!! The Wordpress plugins (what is the name of this plugin) that do the basic Wordpress migration in about an hour. You say that they will change all of the URL references to the new domain name, and updating them to reflect the HTTPS as well.
By this do you mean that they will create redirects or actually change them to the new domain? If I understand correctly (sorry I am a novice) it is imperative that I actually change the addresses rather than implement a redirect.
From what you are saying, a lot of the work is updating things like Google Analytics, Google Search Console, Facebook etcetera. But it seems like even a novice like me could do that,
So do you think the following sounds about right:
Basic domain migration using Wordpress plugin: 4 hours
Update of third party tools: 3 hours
Redirecting website forms: 30 minutes
Install of SSL Certificate: 1 hour
Miscellaneous: 1 hour
Total: Less than 9-10 hours.One thing I did not mention. We use Amazon CDN to host about 1,000 images. I don't know how this affects site migration but I would think it complicates it somewhat.
Important thing is good quality control for this critical task. Don't want to under pay and have problems. On the other hand I don't want to pay a multiple of what is should cost.
Also, should I install SSL after the migration has occurred or at about the same time?
-
Hmmm, there seem to be a number of significant disconnects here.
First, an AutoSSL will be perfectly fine for your purpose. There's actually no difference between how a free SSL performs and a paid one. The encryption is the same. The thing is, the whole point of AutoSSL is that it is a two or three click installation process. It literally takes three or four minutes, not eight hours. Your developer must be assuming he is going to have to generate and install an old-fashioned certificate in the completely manual method that used to be necessary. That's simply not the case with AutoSSL in cPanel.
Second, the actual domain name migration is going to need to be made up of two overlapping parts. The first part is getting all of the website files and objects to run under the new domain name and HTTPS protocol. The second part is getting all of the external elements adjusted and corrected so they are also using the new domain name.
For the first part of that process, there are WordPress plug-ins that will do the basic website migration in about an hour. These plug-ins will handle changing all of the URL references to the new domain name, and updating them to reflect the HTTPS as well. Then it's necessary to do quality assurance on the site to make sure that any small exceptions or manually created URLs get caught and corrected as well.
The final step is getting the DNS and redirects in place so that all of the old domain traffic is correctly redirected to the new domain and pages. In addition, all of the external/third-party tools that are used with the site must be updated. Things like Google Analytics, Google Search Console, AdWords, ad servers and other tools must be updated to reflect the new domain name and protocol. In addition, all the external profiles you use must be updated as well for things like Facebook, Twitter etc. If your site relies heavily on Facebook share counts for social proof, there are also extra steps that must be taken to salvage those counts after the migration. And finally, you must decide how you're going to handle company email with the change in domain name. This relates to both the company email mailboxes, and the way email is handled from forms on the website.
Doing a domain and https migration like this is definitely a significant undertaking and needs a proper, well-thought-out project plan for implementation, But the actual moving of the files and website to the new domain name and HTTPS is certainly not a 30-hour process. It's managing all the rest of the elements of the migration to ensure both usability and SEO are maintained that take up the time.
Hope that all makes sense?
Paul
-
Just to add some extra info,
Take a look on these three articles. They might help you.
The Big List of SEO Tips and Tricks for Using HTTPS on Your Website - Moz Blog
The HTTP to HTTPs Migration Checklist in Google Docs to Share, Copy & Download - AleydaSolis
Google SEO HTTPS Migration Checklist - SERoundtableIMHO, spend an extra bucks and be completely sure that everything is done correctly. And the one that makes the migration takes the responsability for the job.
Hope it helps.
Best luck.
GR. -
Hi Alan
I hope you're well,
Firstly the offer made in InMotion hosting for free migration and free installation of the SSL certificate - this is fine, they will certainly swap your domains so that Domain B becomes primary for you on the server and perform the SSL installation but if anything was to go wrong, they will likely ask you to refer to your developer to adjust your site to suit. They will do the basics and in a very basic website, that is sufficient but it sounds like you have quite a large site with lots of content, so I wouldn't recommend it.
To quote for swapping your primary domain and installing the SSL will depend on how much work is involved. Lets say for example your home button links to domainA.com as well as all your images and text links being linked to domainA.com/destination. - They can either set it up so it automatically redirects all the links to the correct address or they could go through manually and make edits to all the pages (header.php, footer.php and so on) to change domainA.com to domainB.com through all the code.
I preferably would change all the traces of DomainA.com to DomainB.com as a pose to setting up the redirects and if this is necessary, it could become very time consuming if you have links and images within the content.
My site is of similar size and I'm extremely fussy about this sort of thing. I would stick with your developer if he's worked on the site before, he will know what's involved. Maybe ask him to confirm the work that is involved so that you're aware what will be included.
I hope this helps and I hope you have a very Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year
Best Regards
Ajaz
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Domain transfer
Hi Everyone! I work for a company that had a new website built through a digital agency and that website went live 2 months ago. I have only been with the company for 2 months and find myself under the gun, because they are not coming up in organic search results that they used to. The old domain was 301'ed to point to the new domain. There were also 1 to 1 redirects set up to transfer the old page authority to the new, equivalent pages. In everyone's experience, how long does it take for a domain to start populating for search terms that it used to? I know there are mixed reviews on 301 transfers and how much of the old domain authority is preserved when you take this route. What is your experience? Just looking for some answers. Thanks in advance! John
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | AdvisGroup0 -
SEO Migration Options
Hi Guys, We have a www.sitename.com.au domain name and looking to move into the US market, and other markets in the future such as UK, Canada, etc. We are reviewing our options. Currently the .com.au is ccTLD to Australia so won't perform well in US. It seems the best option at this stage is to get a generic domain Generic top-level domains (gTLDs) like a .com. Then create different sub-folders for each country for example: .com our main country .com/us/ target us .com/uk/ Then in Google Search Console don't set country targeting for entire domain but use Hreflang Tags to specify the targeting for each page? -- This seems like a complex strategy to execute so i just want to check if this would be a optional option? Any suggestions would be very much appreciated! Cheers.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | cerednicenko0 -
:Pointing hreflang to a different domain
Hi all, Let's say I have two websites: www.mywebsite.com and www.mywebsite.de - they share a lot of content but the main categories and URLs are almost always different. Am I right in saying I can't just set the hreflang tag on every page of www.mywebsite.com to read: rel='alternate' hreflang='de' href='http://mywebsite.de' /> That just won't do anything, right? Am I also right in saying that the only way to use hreflang properly across two domains is to have a customer hreflang tag on every page that has identical content translated into German? So for this page: www.mywebsite.com/page.html my hreflang tag for the german users would be: <link < span="">rel='alternate' hreflang='de' href='http://mywebsite.de/page.html' /></link <> Thanks for your time.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | Bee1590 -
Excellent performance in BING, terrible performance in GOOGLE
Dear all, We're struggling with the SEO of our platform www.taobao.nl for 6 months now. I posted some matters before on the MOZ forum and followed up the ideas that i received (tnx again 🙂 But so far there really isn't much result. Recently i found out that my platform is doing excellent in search engine Bing.com (ranking top 3/4 on my main keyword 'taobao') while my platform's homepage is still ranking dramatically in Google on the same keyword (ranking between position 180-280) Does anybody have some insight for me what could be the reason for this or how/where i can fund it out? Many thanks in advance! Sander
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | benhond0 -
Replicating keywords in the URL - bad?
Our site URL structure used to be (example site) frogsforsale.com/cute-frogs-for-sale/blue-frogs wherefrogsforsale.com/cute-frogs-for-sale/ was in front of every URL on the site. We changed it by removing the for-sale part of the URL to be frogsforsale.com/cute-frogs/blue-frogs. Would that have hurt our rankings and traffic by removing the for-sale? Or was having for-sale in the URL twice (once in domain, again in URL) hurting our site? The business wants to change the URLs again to put for-sale back in, but in a new spot such as frogsforsale.com/cute-frogs/blue-frogs-for-sale as they are convinced that is the cause of the rankings and traffic drop. However the entire site was redesigned at the same time, the site architecture is very different, so it is very hard to say whether the traffic drop is due to this or not.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | CFSSEO0 -
Sub domain on root domain
Hello,
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | dror999
I have a question that I can't find a good answer on.
I have a site, actually a "portal"/ "directory" for service providers.
Now, for start, we opened every service provider own page on our site, but now we get a lot of applications from those providers that thy want sites from their own.
We want to make every service provider his own site, but on sub domain url. ( they don’t mind… its ok for them)
So, my site is www.exaple.com
There site will be: provider.exaple.com
Now I have two questions:
1. can it harm my site in SEO?
2. if one from those sub domain , punished by google because is owner do "black hat seo" , how it will affect the rood domin? It can make the root domain to get punished?
Thanks!!0 -
Website domain hosting and set-up for foreign domains?
Hi, I am just wondering what the best practice is for marketing a business in two separate countries? I have a new client that wants me to create their website targeted at the UK market which for me is normal but they also want to target Australia (Probably couldn't get any further away) My initial thoughts are that the business would need two separate websites. The first one in the uk and the second website hosted on servers in Australia with different content. Is this correct? or does anyone have any advice which may simplify getting this thing off the ground. Thanks in advance.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | AdeLewis
Ade.0 -
Hiring an SEO company
I usually do SEO myself but now its time to move on to getting on with running the business. I have found a fantastic PPC company who ONLY focus on PPC and am looking for same but for SEO. Must be based in UK and have a great portfolio of mid/large tier companies with some real life stats to back them up. Pricing must be clear and transaparent. Results must be measurable. How would you find such a company? Ironically searching on Google doesn't seem to produce the right results 😞 Alastair
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | alastairc0