Is the Penguin algorithmic penalty on a page basis or a site basis?
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Just wondering if there has been any clarification of whether the Penguin algorithmic penalty is on a Page basis or a Site basis? In other words, is it all or nothing?
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The penalty varies widely by page. The penalty appears to hit certain keywords associated with individual pages.
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I will just add my 2 cents. Based on the changes I saw in my websites it seems like it is based on the page, not the site. While some pages have disappeared from the rankings, others seem to be unaffected. Ray.
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From my sites it is only pages that are over optimized have been hit, pages that were not highly optimized or not optimized at all are now ranking
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I think Elias is right about the query. I have a page that still ranks but my "primary" keyword is nowhere to be found anymore. It may have been deemed "over-optimized".
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It seems to be a combination of page and search query.
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In my experience, page. Certain keywords/pages were hit hard whereas others were not affected. Tom
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