SIte cloned my entire website and is now outranking me
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My site is http://www.medic8.com and http://www.mealldubh.org has cloned my site and is now outranking my site.
I have submitted DMCA requests to Google with no response.
I do not know what to do now but surely it should be obvoius that this site has cloned me and there must be a way to have this scraper removed from the index?
Im lost in terms of what I can do next so any help would be greatly appreacited.
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yeah i think contacting the linking sites would just be far too time consuming and take too long to impact the site. Its crazy how a expired domain can just clone a site and start ranking so well. MY site has some decent authority in the health sector but its been taken over by this one!
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As I look deeper into this, I think Visiblics has got it. firstdvs.ru is clearly a hosting provider, and they specialize in VPS servers, which it definitley looks like this guy is using.
Their website includes mention of the following:
Illegal activity of users
Department dealing with the issues of illegal activity of our users. If you know of violations of law or our terms of service on the part of our customers, please let us know.
E - mail: abuse@firstvds.ru
Looks like that's your best shot.
Paul
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Fully agree re getting Cutts's attention - but you never know what might catch his eye. See if you can "hook" him
Paul
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And just so you know... the reason the cloned site is outrranking you is because it's been built on a recently-expired domain that had really high domain authority from its original owner's site.
It was the personal blog of a guy who was very active in the open-source community and so had a large number of influential incoming links.
The good news (what little there is) is that the original site had absolutely nothing to do with health care, and the links are predominantly using his name as the anchor text, so the search engines "should" start to devalue that site over time as the ranking signals are now irrelevant to the current site.
If you really have time on your hands, you could collect some of the more significant pages hosting incoming links and ask them to remove the link as it's now spam. Many likely would, but it would be time-consuming.
Paul
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hey paul thanks for this ill give that a shot, im sure matt cutts gets a lot of direct tweets ... will probably be lost in space but worth a shot i guess
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According to www.whoishostingthis.com and Domain Tools, IP address is owned by ISPSystem, cjsc in Irkutsk, which likely means they also host the server. The site is hosted on a server with only 6 other sites, so it likely means the thief is using his own dedicated server or VPS
IP Address:82.146.43.144 Reverse-IP | Ping | DNS Lookup | Traceroute ASN: AS29182 IP Location: - Irkutsk - Irkutsk - Ispsystem Cjsc
Russian hosting providers aren't known for being especially responsible for taking down copyright infringement, but it's definitely worth sending them a DMCA request while you're waiting for the Search Engines to take notice. Problem of course is Russia isn't bound by the DMCA.ISPsystem
PoBox 30
664017 Irkutsk
RUSSIAN FEDERATIONphone: +74956681264
fax: +73952525096
e-mail: noc (at) ispsystem (dot) net
The other thing you can try is posting about the issue in the Google Webmaster Central forums - that's occasionally been known to get attention to the takedown request quicker.
And hey, a direct tweet to Matt Cutts wouldn't hurt either
Good luck.
Paul -
just saw this reply thanks I will look into this
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My site has been live more than 8 years i noticed this clone about 3 months ago.
I have the registrant details from the domain tools search and i have tried emailing the contact on here without response.
But how do I find out who the hosting company is?
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May be this company is hosted with:firstvds.ru
You can report this issue to abuse@firstvds.ru
More details can be found here: http://centralops.net/co/
HOpe this helps
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You could also try domaintools.com - it offers whois, reverse-ip, ping, DNS lookup, and traceroute. I can definitely understand that Google is your priority but they tend to take a little while to respond, so rest assured that they'll get round to it.
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When did you make this website live? and when did you notice that they have cloned your website?
However, there is nothing to worry, it takes time to DMCA to respond to all the queries, You can also touch base with their hosting company to report about this issue, and directly email them as well.
Report this issue to Google as well. But Google is smart enough to track such frauds if your site content and design is older than the other website, sooner or later it will dropped in rankings.
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Thanks for your reply, Everything terminates in russia from my whois lookups and cant find details of who hosts the site. Have tried DMCA to google but will give the same approach to other search engines a try my main concern however is Google.
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Hi there, I would:
- Send DMCA notifications to the other major search engines and any web directories this site is listed on. This should get the site de-indexed.
- Send a DMCA notification to the Webmaster's ISP. This should get the site taken down,
Good luck.
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