Counting over-optimised links - do internal links count too?
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To whit:
In working out whether I've too many over-optimised links pointing to my homepage, do I look at just external links -- or also the links from my internal pages to my homepage?
In other words, can a natural link profile from internal pages help dilute overoptimisation from external links?
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Over-optimized internal links can only harm you, you are in direct control of those, external links you are not. So I would do everything you can on your site to show Google that you are not trying to game the system and that includes well but not over optimized internal linking. Paul answered your question well though.
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Paul is definitely on the money with that answer. However I would not worry at all about internal links being over optimized you're speaking your internal links linking to each other inside your page home to about for more L juice. Talking about just having the correct anchor text on I believe it's one of the last places you can actually use anchor text your advantage. However
I would not start destroying the inside of your website for changing the photographs that you may have put the correct Alt. text and names for that you could still rank for in order to alleviate penalty brought on by inbound external links.
My suggestion is that you keep your page internally optimized because you need kugels meal to crawl it correctly. And those things still do matter it's pretty easy Rangifer photos videos things like that I would not tear apart. I would however show Google that you're doing good by creating substance and really working hard at it.
I know everybody says that and listen man I know it's easier said than done so I'm not trying to tell you there's an easy way out if you're interested of this. However my belief is if you start creating quality content you can only do the best you can do and without that you're not going to trick Google for a living so Call the rules and don't worry so much about over optimization and things like that unless it is really something that has been brought to your attention by Google because people get paranoid that category but what Paul said is true I am certain Google's algorithm keeps everything into account that you've done inside your site and off.
My belief is that Google is getting more into who we are personally and the point of regarding of Trying to figure out just who we actually are what our intentions are thery read your email Google apps for Gmail. But they have everything they have all the information so I think that might start playing a hand in the algorithms.
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In my experience, this is a "worst of both worlds" situation, Jeepster.
Over-optimised internal linking can definitely cause harm, but well-optimized internal links can't make up for over-optimised externals.
If you think of this from the search engines' perspective, it wouldn't really make sense to allow you to alleviate spammy external tactics by being a "good boy" on your own site. Especially when external incoming links are likely a much more important ranking factor than internal links.
That's my .02.
Paul
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