Is it impossible to get out of Panda? Matt Cutts says if you fix the problem you "pop back" but if so why are their so few examples?

[julianhearn]

In this video matt cutts says: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IzUuhTyvJk about 15

"once we re-run our data (every few weeks) if we determine your site is of higher quality you would pop back out of being affected"

Panda has effected thousands of sites and a lot of smart people have been working on the problem for about 2 years since the first panda was launched, but I can only find 1 site that has "popped back" to their original rankings. e.g. http://searchengineland.com/google-panda-two-years-later-losers-still-losing-one-real-recovery-149491

Apart from Motortrend.com I can't find any sites (of reasonable size) / case studies of sites that have solved the panda problem, and were definitely hit by panda. Which doesn't feel right, some people have deleted a ton of pages, redesigned their site, improved their content, etc with no success. Therefore is it a pointless exercise? Therefore, is it better to simply give up and start a new site?

[Chris.Menke]

Yeah, I noticed the graph was cut pretty short after they gained traffic back. They must have forgotten to knock on wood before they posted about their recovery.

[julianhearn]

Hi Chris,

Daniweb did recovery for a short period, but then lost their traffic again, there is more here: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/webmasters/HiGVM9h2ioE%5B1-25-false%5D

I know google is planning to soften panda, and about time too.

thanks,

julian.

[Chris.Menke]

Julian,

There are a few more listed here on screamingfrog's blog and daniweb said they recovered.  Seerinteractive also wrote about a client they helped to recover.  But you're right, there are very few examples of big sites who have recovered.

[julianhearn]

Hi Jason,

Yes I've heard a lot more stories like that too. Which is how it should be, you fix the problem and google then gives you your rankings, traffic and revenue back. But with Panda it doesn't seem to work that way, even though Matt Cutts says it does, which is frustrating, annoying and unfair.

The lack of response to this question seems to confirm my fear that its impossible to get out of panda.

Julian.

[jasonsixtwo]

I have not seen it with Panda but I have seen it with Penguin. We removed the bad links and the site popped back up with 2-3 days. It was actually a couple of spammy link edu pyramid pointed at the website with exact match anchor text all the way up. We removed the few links that were actually pointing to the site and problem solved. Very Strange...

Wish I could be more helpful with Panda... We have never had any issues there.