Google Keyword Tool Alternatives
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Hey All,
So ever since Google shut down the Keyword Tool we have used the keyword planner and a few other tools only to find they aren't quite the same, I was wondering what everyone is using now to get there keyword research and average traffic estimates ?
We previous used keyword tool for phrase match and now not much offers phrase match or provides us with what seems as accurate results.
We have tried Word Tracker after a numerous amount of research to find a alternative to the keyword tool, and found that the results are very different from the Google Keyword Planner, 1 noticeable result would be of "Web Design Melbourne", in Word Tracker it showed the average search of 9,900 (per month or year I'm not sure) and we compared that to the Google Keyword Planner and it showed 3,000.
I have looked over a number of tools and found they weren't quite what we are looking for (Word Tracker, SEMRush, Google Keyword Planner) so I have turned to the MOZ Community.
So my first question for everyone would be:
A) what do you use for Keyword research and average search estimates now (any good tools with phrase match)?
B) If you have used Word Tracker have you found accurate results in your keyword research?
If you have found any tools that have proved beneficial and useful please let me know (paid or free)
Thank you
Jake Crone -
Hi Jake
You could try http://www.keywordeye.com. They offer a free account which provides 10 keyword searches per day and up to 100 keyword suggestions per report. Their Pro version is not very much per month and there is a 30 day free trial of that.
I have played around with this tool rather than used it seriously, but it is worth a look as an alternative to the Google Keyword Planner.
I hope that helps,
Peter -
Hey all,
Thank you for your answers, and yes i see your points, running a small ad words campaign would let me see what people are searching based around my ad, click through rate, impressions and would be a lot cheaper then word tracker depending on how many campaigns we have starting.
But i was just wondering since we use a keyword report to present to a potential client we don't really want to wait a week or two and spend money on a report for a potential client seeing as they may still walk away depending on the results.
So do use know of any other tools like the Google keyword tool that i can place my keyword list in and get a avg search traffic estimate and phrase match results?
Again thank you for your answers
Cheers
Jake -
I agree with Gregory and Michael that doing and Adwords campaign can be a good way to start. Also remember that the various keyword tools do not take seseanality into account but agregate the search into a 12 month average.
When doing keyword research through Adwords also remember that a large part of the clicks fall in the adwords section and not the organic section, so a pos 1 in organic will not give you the same amount of clicks as pos 1 in adwords for most search terms.
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I'll second what Michael said. If you are just interested in searches in or around Melbourne you can limit it to just AU searches. Doing that will keep the cost quite low.
If you run it about two weeks, you will also be able to pull up the full report that tells the exact phrases people searched for and the quantity of those searches. Always some interesting surprises in that report...
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Hey Jake,
One of the best things we do is run small adwords campaigns on certain keywords just to get a feel for the traffic. It may cost you $15-$100, and a week or two to get a great sampling of data, but in the end, it helps knowing that you are not wasting your time on a keyword the brings in zero impressions or traffic. Plus, the correlation of higher cost per click and the amount of links you will need to get that keyword (or phrase) to rank, go hand in hand (higher price - more links).
Pricing for Wordtracker begins at $69 monthly; you could easily gain all the data you need by a sample adwords campaign.
Are you opposed to using Adwords?
B) I have not used word tracker, so I won't answer that one.
Eli
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