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    • Ben.JD
      Ben.JD Subscriber last edited by

      We are setting up several international sites. Ideally, we wouldn't set up any redirects, but if we have to (for merchandising reasons etc) I'd like to assess what the next best option would be.

      A secondary option could be that we implement the redirects based on IP. However, Google then wouldn't be able to access the content for all the international sites (we're setting up 6 in total) and would only index the .com site. I'm wondering whether the Hreflang annotations would still allow Google to find the International sites? If not, that's a lot of content we are not fully benefiting from.

      Another option could be that we treat the Googlebot user agent differently, but this would probably be considered as cloaking by the G-Man.

      If there are any other options, please let me know.

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        I would not recommend IP based redirects. You can detect and do an initial redirect (with a javascript overlay telling people that you think they are in a specific area), but you'd have to give all users (including Googlebot) the ability to go to the other URLs as well.

        HREFLANG is not meant for geo-targeting and IP addresses only tell you location. You only need HREFLANG if there are language changes within a country targeted site or universal (not geotargeted) site.

        Even ignoring that, the HREFLANG would not help if people were always redirected based on IP, so I don't suggest that.

        Hope this helps, let me know if you have any more questions.

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