SEOMoz Bug?

[TheIronYuppie]

Hi--

I was using the SEOMoz toolbar, and I went to this page -

http://www.hark.com/clips/dxkdbdggyh-hes-totally-lucid-100-percent

and it says "zero" links from anywhere. However, it's clearly linked to from the home page -

http://www.hark.com/

Why would this be?

[AaronWheeler]

Ryan's right - it's because the page isn't in our index yet. You can verify this at www.opensiteexplorer.org. Sorry about that! Most new sites and links will be indexed by our spiders and available in Linkscape and Open Site Explorer within 60 days, but some take even longer for a plethora of reasons, including crawl-ability of sites, the amount of inbound links to them, and the depth of pages in subdirectories. Just so you know, here's how we do our index: we take the last index, take the 10 billion URLs with the highest mozrank (with a fixed limit on some of the larger domains), and start crawling from the top-down until we've crawled 40,000,000,000 pages (which is about 1/4 of the amount in Google's index). Therefore, if the site is not linked to by one of these seed URLs (or one of the URLs linked to by them in the next update) then it won't show up in our index

We update our Linkscape Index every 3 to 5 weeks. Crawling the whole internet to look for links takes 2-3 weeks. And then we've got 1-2 weeks of processing to do on those links to determine which are the most important links etc. You can see a schedule of how often we update, and planned updates here: http://seomoz.zendesk.com/entries/345964-linkscape-update-schedule

Linkscape focuses on a breadth-first approach, and thus we nearly always have content from the homepage of websites, externally linked-to pages and pages higher up in a site's information hierarchy. However, deep pages that are buried beneath many layers of navigation are sometimes missed and it may be several index updates before we catch all of these.

If our crawlers or data sources are blocked from reaching those URLs, they may not be included in our index (though links that points to those pages will still be available). Finally, the URLs seen by Linkscape must be linked-to by other documents on the web or our index will not include them.

For now, the best thing you can do to help your domain become indexed is to work on link building for links from sites with high mozrank.

I hope this helps! This is more of a customer service question than an SEO question, so in the future, if you have a question about our site or tools, please email it to help@seomoz.org to get faster service. Thank you David!

Best of luck.

[RyanKent]

Thanks for clarifying David. I now understand your question.

Using the SEOmoz toolbar's Analyze button, Link Data tab you are viewing the "Internal Followed Links" field and it shows as 0, when you clearly have links to your page.

The issue is the tool uses information from SEOmoz's monthly crawl of the web. SEOmoz only uses data from the top 25% of web pages on the internet. If the site you are looking at isn't very well linked and very popular, then you wont see the data you seek.

I don't like it at all and am seeking a better tool myself.

[TheIronYuppie]

I think you may still be misunderstanding. I went to the page tab you showed, and here were the results:

| Internal Followed Links | 242 |
| Internal Nofollow Links | 2 |
| External Followed Links | 4 |
| External Nofollow Links | 1 |

However, that's obviously measuring links on this page to other pages. I'm looking for links TO this page, to measure the success of this page, and it's all zeros. However, this is plainly not the case - there's a link from the home page to this page. That's the bug I'm talking about.

[RyanKent]

David, I am trying to help you here.

Please take another look at my initial reply.

[TheIronYuppie]

Hi --

I did so, but all zeros.

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[RyanKent]

That refers to EXTERNAL links, not internal ones.

Press the <analyze>button on your SEOmoz toolbar, then click to the Page Attributes tab as I mentioned above. There you will see the internal link information.</analyze>

[TheIronYuppie]

I don't believe so - see the attached screen shot.

http://i.imgur.com/dXy4d.jpg

Right at the top, next to "PA" it says "0"

[RyanKent]

I believe you are looking at the Link Data tab which analyzes links TO the page you are viewing from other sources.

You want to look at the Page Attributes tab.