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Penguin Refresh - any ideas when?

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yatesandcojewelers last edited by

Has anyone heard when a Penguin algo refresh might be happening? I used LinkRisk and identified about 1,000 toxic links (not put up by me) and disavowed them. Then my rankings tanked a bit. (yes, I know they must have been helping me.) But I think we are probably under a Penguin algo penalty since 2012. Earned some good links, and disavowed some bad links. So I'm hopeful that a Penguin algo update will give us a traffic boost.
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yatesandcojewelers last edited by

Thanks Adam! I'll just try to keep doing what I'm doing and be patient.
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seovp last edited by

John Mueller recently confirmed that engineers are currently working on the update, but no time frame for when it will be rolled out.

http://www.thesempost.com/googles-penguin-algo-update-worked-engineers/
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