2 Top level domains - not ranking?
-
Hi Guys
I'm a bit confused, I have 3 top level domains com, com.au and co.nz I have set up the right CcLTD's and also the correct Hreflang tags - but for some reason, I'm only been found for my co.nz site and not for the com.au and the com
My site is zenory com and zenory.co.nz, zenory.com.au the co.nz is doing well in the nz search but how come I can't find anything for the other two?
Is there something I'm doing wrong here?
-
Hi Rick
Thanks for your response!
According to WMT and Moz I have added the CcTLDs and Hreflang tags correctly and set up geo targeting seems to be fine.
Just can't seem to find out why the .com and com.au isn't ranking or showing any sign of being in the top 50 for a long tail keyword yet? I launched in Nov 2014 and we rank reasonably well for the NZ search, but it seems the .com doesn't appear to show anything.
I'm mindful I had submitted the same sitemap for the co.nz to thecom.au and also the com and wondering if that had any effect.
We are in the middle of a site re-design so I wasn't going to submit the new sitemaps until the new design had been updated to the live environment.
-
Thanks Dirk for the information!!!! I'm in the middle of a redesign it is mobile friendly but won't be launching for a few weeks!
-
Hi Justin,
Next Tuesday is the 21/4 - the day the Mobile Friendly update is launched. You can find more info about it here: http://moz.com/community/q/google-s-mobile-update-what-we-know-so-far-updated-3-25
rgds,
Dirk
-
Hi Dirk
Thanks for your response! Actually I have been having issues with this! I generated the sitemap through an auto generator in google and the sitemap for com.au keeps send the com sitemap, i then proceeded to try screaming frog sitemap generator, but I'm not sure if I need to fix any canonicalised issues firstly.... Sorry I'm extremely new at all this and finding a little over my head with all the technical jargon.
-
Hi there
Thanks for the update! I'm in the middle of a design overhaul but won't be ready in for two weeks! Whats the significance for next Tuesday?
-
Not entirely related, but your site isn't mobile-friendly. So from next Tuesday, you may start seeing a drop in traffic if this is not addressed.
-
Dirk, you might be right, but then again why have 3 identical sites? Even if the hreflang tags are properly set up, the whole content is duplicated - even the currency across all 3 sites. If you had different currencies on each (as described in the video) it would be something. But right now, all the content is identical (not almost identical but fully identical).
Don't get me wrong, this is not a problem about spamming, it's just that with 3 identical pages, google is going to rank the one that it first saw, the one it considers to be the original - or the one that has the best ranking signals (links and what not).
-
Hi Rick,
Don't fully agree on that - having almost identical content on different TLD's isn't necessary considered duplicate content - as indicated in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=BE&v=Ets7nHOV1Yo. The sites also use the hreflang tag to indicate that they are related & which version should be shown to which user.
I do agree that it would be better to take into account country specifics like currency & spelling
rgds,
Dirk
-
If you really have the same site on 3 top level domains, that's duplicate content and it's probably one of the reasons why the other 2 don't show up in the searches. All 3 sites are indexed, I have checked. If you wanna have 3 sites, you should definitely use different content on them, or you can just keep the 3 domains and redirect 2 of them to the most important one.
-
Hi Rick
We have the same exact site on 3 top level domains.
zenory.com, zenory.co.nz, and zenory.com.au - **I know a competitor of ours does really well with all 3 domains and is based in NZ. **
-
Hi Justin. Most search engines take into account your physical location when displaying results. If you are physically in NZ and search for your high ranking keywords, you will more than likely get the NZ site. If you have access to a server in the USA and run the same search, chances are you'll get the .com site. Likewise, if you're in AU then the .au site "should" show higher in the search results. Google has made it very clear here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ce9jv91beQ that just because a site ranks well in one language doesn't mean it'll rank well for a translated site or language-specific subdomain.
Other than that, your biggest issue is that you have very little content for search engines to consider. Google used to recommend about 250 words of relevant content, but these days I'm seeing longer articles rank much better. Your site performance could also be better, so I recommend a read on YSlow scores and how certain front-end optimizations might speed up your site.
But you should have already know what we were going to tell you. Your psychics should have told you! LOL
Cheers!
-
Hi Justin,
You might want to look at your server configuration - all the domains seem to have some config issues (no SOA record / no DNSSEC processing). I am not really into this technical stuff, and cannot judge if these issues are really important or not.
http://dnscheck.pingdom.com/?domain=www.zenory.com.au×tamp=1429174636&view=1
http://dnscheck.pingdom.com/?domain=www.zenory.co.nz×tamp=1429174857&view=1
http://dnscheck.pingdom.com/?domain=www.zenory.co.nz×tamp=1429174857&view=1
(I noticed when I tried to crawl the .com.au site with Screaming Frog and got a Connection Error)
Apart from that, as mentioned in a previous answer, the fact that prices are listed in NZ$ is probably a bit strange for .com (and .com.au users). Language used is NZ version - in the States spelling is slightly different (ex. behaviour vs behavior).
Did you manage to create sitemaps for the US & AU versions?Not related to the ranking issues - but the homepage seems to be very heavy - you might want to work on that (http://www.webpagetest.org/result/150416_2D_J3X/)
Hope this helps,
Dirk
-
What do you mean you're only found for the .co.nz site?
And one thing I don't understand, do you have 3 different sites or just 3 different domains (and 2 of them redirect to the other one)?
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Multiple Domains Appearing in SERP - 1 .com, 1 ccTLD
Our global domain and our US ccTLD domain both appear for brand searches in the US. How do I recommend to our Tech team to fix this, as it skews our Organic traffic numbers between the two domains? The brand is Sportradar. (Sportradar.com / Sportradar.us )
International SEO | | mitchell-moz0 -
Comprehensive KW Ranking Database for Canada - better than SEMRush?
Is anyone familiar with other tools like SEMRush for competitor research in Canada to see what sites are currently ranking for? I'm not sure that SEMRush has the most comprehensive database for Canada and I'm looking for THE tool in Canada. Thanks!
International SEO | | accpar0 -
If domain mapping subfolders to TLD's is it perceived as a fully separate entity/site therafter ?
Hi I take it once you have domain mapped a country specific subfolder to a country specific TLD (for better local region targeting reasons) Google perceives it as a completely separate entity and it no longer shares any of the parent sites domain benefits (such as domain authority etc) so from that point on requires its own dedicated link building etc ? All Best Dan
International SEO | | Dan-Lawrence0 -
Wordpress SEO/ Ecommerce , Site with Multiple Domains ( International ) & Canonical URLs
Hi I have an ecommerce site with an integrated wordpress instance. I want to have one wordpress site that outputs to 2 domains exactly the same content , but one will have canonical URL . NZ & Australia Sites. So: Would I use the rel="Alternate" hreflang="en-nz" . I want the same content to rank well for each country and not be penalised for duplicate content. Ideas?
International SEO | | s_EOgi_Bear0 -
.com versus local domains
Hi all, One of my clients has local domain websites in various parts of the world (co.uk etc. etc.) and there has always been a discussion about where a move from local domain (the current set-up) to a targeted .com domain (i.e. .com/uk) would benefit from a SEO perspective. The main reasoning (seo-wise) that keeps coming up is that there'd only be one domain to link to which would help with link juice being passed around. Any thoughts as whether this would actually be the case or if this possible benefit would be outweighed by other cons? Recent moves (local to .com) from a few websites (the Guardian newspaper in the UK being the most recent one off the top of my head) has made me start thinking about it again! Diana
International SEO | | Diana.varbanescu0 -
For a website in portuguese what would you use? pt.domain.com, br.domain.com or domain.com.br
Hello We are a company with a website in several languages, one of them is portuguese. Our market is 2 times bigger in Brazil than in Portugal, but obviously Brazil has more potential in the future. In domain.com we have our main site in English. What would you use? pt.domain.com, br.domain.com or domain.com.br? In the first case, it means just portuguese, in the second Brazil but it is not geolocalized, and in the third, you are almost ignoring Portugal users... Duplicating content, doesn't seem to make sense... The content is basically international, so it is just the language that matters. Any help will be very much appreciated.
International SEO | | forex-websites0 -
E-Commerce site in 2 languages - Duplicate content or not?
How does Google view this? Our current site works like:
International SEO | | bjs2010
www.domain.com/EN - English
www.domain.com/ES - Spanish All products are the same, just different language and different URL for them - is this good or bad? I thought of either Going with .co.uk or .com for "English" and a .es for "Spanish"
OR Subdomaining it. www.es.domain.com and www.en.domain.com Any advice appreciated!0 -
Ranking well internationally, usage of hreflang, duplicate country content
I'm trying to wrap my head around various options when it comes to international SEO, specifically how to rank well in countries that share a language, and the risk of duplicate content in these cases. We have a chance to start from scratch because we're switching to a new e-commerce platform, and we were looking into using hreflang. Let's assume an example of a .com webshop that targets both Austria and Germany. One option is to include both language and region in the URL, and mark these as such using hreflang: webshop.com/de-de/german-language-content (with hreflang de-de)
International SEO | | DocdataCommerce
webshop.com/de-at/german-language-content (with hreflang de-at) Another option would be to only include the language in the URL, not the region, and let Google figure out the rest: webshop.com/de/german-language-content (with hreflang de) Which would be better? The risk of inserting a country, of course, is that you're introducing duplicate content, especially since for webshops there are usually only minor differences in content (pricing, currency, a word here and there). If hreflang is an effective means to make sure that visitors from each country get the correct URL from the search engines, I don't see any reason not to use this way. But if search engines get it wrong, users will end up in the wrong page and will have to switch country, which could result in conversion loss. Also, if you only use language in the URL, is it useful at all to use hreflang? Aren't engines perfectly able to recognize language already? I don't mention ccTLDs here because most of the time we're required to use a .com domain owned by our customer. But if we did, would that be much better? And would it still be useful to use hreflang then? webshop.de/german-language-content (with hreflang de-de)
webshop.at/german-language-content (with hreflang de-at) Michel Hendriks
Docdata Commerce0