Any problem with launching a redesigned site early without a few product categories?
-
Hello,
My client wants to launch a redesign early, problem is they want to do this without a majority of their product pages, since the bulk of their sales aren't from these missing categories, will the resulting 404s hurt them?
What is up, is the major pages structured around their primary keyword, most of their sales isn't from the product pages, but from the quotes turned into sales. Big ticket items aren't sold through the cart, they are call or email for quotes and normally those quotes are turned into sales once they realize the price is better.
We will be adding these missing categories and products, just one section at a time. Since 404s don't hurt, and we don't rank very well from the products missing, should I be concerned about any thing else?
Thank you
-
Sounds like you've got a solid plan! Good luck, and make sure to let your boss and coworkers know that you will almost definitely see a temporary decrease in organic traffic through this process. It doesn't mean that you've ruined it, just that Google needs to adjust.
Good luck!
-
Thank you!
I've gone through a 301 the urls we were doing good SEO wise with, however I would rather let the ones that panda seemed to not like get 404d and let them start a new with the revised urls as we bring them online at a later date.
This site had most of the SEO mojo going to the homepage since before I got my hands on the site, they didn't monitor backlinks well nor keyword usage and focused on the homepage as the SEO hub. Not knowing to tamper keywords accordingly throughout the site, keeping relative keywords only on the pages they best fit on.
The site ranked so poorly for the urls we're removing, as well the products weren't very profitable it at all. So keeping what worked best on the site was our focus while removing what wasn't helpful to the user or us.
Thank you again for the advice and I've certainly utilized what both of you have mentioned for what we really want to keep. And will be allowing the urls we're not happy with any longer to 404.
-
I'd recommend somehow keeping the current pages and continuing to link to them, or quickly creating crappy new versions of the pages on your site, just as placeholders. They can even have the proper H1, but the rest can be "coming soon."
In general, if you want to remove content, 404s are fine, it's only a problem if you want to bring that content back later; it'll essentially be new content if you 404ed, and you'll lose all of that good SEO mojo you'd build for that content over time.
If you're reducing the site down by that many pages but don't want to lose rankings, here's what I'd do:
- Identify all pages with a significant amount of organic traffic and/or inbound links.
- 301 redirect each of those pages to a page on your new site with similar content.
This can be pretty time consuming, but it'll save you a lot of organic traffic!
Good luck,
Kristina
-
Thank you,
So what's the best course of action to take, if I want to keep these categories off the new site but will be adding them later on? How is it recommended to handle the resulting 404s?
I'm sure this happens in other sites, either a discontinuation of a product category, and a consolidation of products in general, or even site's hit by panda, how do they keep the content not seen and not affect them with the 404s if they do remove?
I thought about nofollow noindex but these products they want off completely for now.
We're going from about 664 pages to 130 pages internally.
We'll be removing 531 urls when we launch this new site in a week. All 531 pages are products that we will be working on their descriptions and overall SEO in general, but are not ready to go live with them.
-
404s do hurt both user experience and ranking potential. As far as rankings go, it will hurt you site-wide too since it's an indication of your site's quality.
Releasing it without some products isn't the end of the world. The 404s will be a problem though - I would not recommend launching a website with any 404s, much less a collection of them.
If the links to these pages are just in the nav, it should be easy enough to comment those out temporarily so you don't see those 404s. What you end up with then is just a website that sells fewer products really.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Main Site and eCommerce Site URLs for SEO
My client currently has a main website on a url and an eCommerce site on a subdomain. The eCommerce site is currently not mobile friendly, has images that are too small and are problematic - and I believe it negates some of the SEO work we do for them. I had to turn off Google Shopping ads because the quality score was so low. That being said, they are rebuilding a shopping cart on a new platform that will be mobile friendly BUT the images are going to be tiny until they slowly replace images over several months. Would you keep the shopping cart on a subdomain, or make it part of the main website URL? Can it negatively impact the progress we have made on the main site SEO.
Technical SEO | | jerrico10 -
Direct To Site Traffic Decline
Hi Everyone, My company's site went from Http to Https and responsive design last year. After 6 months passed, we noticed a 40% decline from direct visits but revenue saw an increase. Could the 301 redirects from Http to Https cause the drop in direct traffic? Thanks!
Technical SEO | | JMSCC1 -
Should I show archives on site?
Should I show my archives on my site? I have WordPress and have dragged the archive widget to the bottom. Would this be considered duplicate content?This is what it looks like. October 2012 September 2012 August 2012 July 2012 June 2012 May 2012 April 2012 February 2012
Technical SEO | | MyAllenMedia0 -
Should we include ANY generic product descriptions on our site?
Until recently all of our product pages (we run an eCommerce site) had product descriptions copied directly off the manufacturer's sites. Obviously this isn't good from an SEO perspective, so we were planning to write our own original copy. My question is: should we keep the manufacturer's copy too? This is often good, useful content from a customer's perspective, but obviously it's not original. Any help appreciated! Alex
Technical SEO | | reddogmusic0 -
What to do if my site was De-indexed?
Hello fellow SEOs, I have been doing SEO for about a year now, I'm not expert, but I know enough to get the job done. I'm learning everyday about better techniques. So enough about that... Tonight I noticed that my site has, I believe, been de-indexed. Its a fairly new site, as we just launched it a few days ago and I went in and did all the title tags and meta. I still have to go in to do the h1 and h2 tags...plus add some alt tags and anchor text. Well anyways, after a couple of days after the title tags were implemented. I was propagating all over the place. Using my keyword tool here...I was number on the first page in Google for 71 or the 88 keywords. My new site was just indexed yesterday and thats when i noticed all my keywords. Well today I noticed that I am no where to be found, even if i type in my company's name. PLEASE help me out...any advice would be appreciated. Thank you. p.s. could my competitors could have done something to my site? just wondering... The website is www.eggheadconsultants.com
Technical SEO | | Jegghead1 -
Redirect from old wordpress site to new php site? Best approach
Hi I have two websites one legacy site done in wordpress the other in php. However I would like to merge the two together and remove the wordpress site. However it has a good link profile and the pages rank well. What is the best approach to do a 301 redirect from the old site with all its pages pointing to the homepage of the new site? If so what's the best way to do this in wordpress? Many thanks
Technical SEO | | ocelot0 -
Google.ca is showing our US site instead of our Canada Site
When our Canadian users who search on google.ca for our brand (e.g. Travelocity, Travelocity hotels, etc.), the first few results our from our US site (travelocity.com) rather than our Canadian site (travelocity.ca). In Google Webmaster Tools, we've adjusted the geotargeting settings to focus on the appropriate locale, but the wrong country TLD is still coming up at the top via google.ca. What's the best way to ensure our Canadian site comes up instead of the US site on google.ca? Thanks, Tory Smith
Technical SEO | | travelocitysearch
Travelocity0