How long does Google take to completely authorise 301 redirect?
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Will 301 redirect will have immediate impact once the website or that redirected link got indexed?
We have recently redirected few links in the process of link reclamation and ranking dropped few days later. Every link we claimed is related to our topic (matched in content and URL) and they have good DA. Even though why it has happened? What are the general rank dropping factors in the process of link reclamation?
Thanks,
Satish
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Hi Furtak,
Could you please share your views on our post here about redirecting:
https://moz.com/community/q/redirecting-homepage-to-2nd-tier-page
Thnaks,
Satish
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I thought its deeper than just redirects.
Theres always risk if you dont have experience with that. You can disavow but moz is only tool to help you but not do all for you. Tools calculate the risk based on some footprints but theres no 100% sure all 'bad' links are bad and all 'good' links are good.
If you want then try on your own.
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Hi Furtak,
We haven't improved rankings even after removing those redirects. We hardly had any changes around this ranking drop period. So, Penguin might hurted us with it's auto action. No manual actions from Google too.
There are some spammy links pointing to our website as per Moz. Shall we disavow them? Will there be any risk doing it?
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Np Satish
Can help (if those links were negseoed for example) but I believe that's not only about redirections. Try and let me know if possible.
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Thanks Furtak for such valuable information.
Do you think removing those redirects help us?
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There're too many possibilities to tell you "it's penguin", "it's about redirects" without knowing domains (which to which), urls, links but I think it's not about redirecting but penguin for the site, panda, or other stuff. 10 links means nothing if you have hundreds.
Bad link? I'm using about 30 rules to determine that including ip, c class, content around, domain registrar, server, anchor, etc...Just "looking" at link isn't enough so you need to compare all things.
301s passes penalties, good and bad "karma".
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Hi Furtak,
I think penguin had played here, because we improved ranking on Sep 1st and 2nd and dropped two weeks later when we redirected around 10 links. We are on the way to remove those redirects to back to the improved rankings. Will that helps?
Is there any exact correlation between 301 redirects and penguin silent penalty? But we have just redirected the links, but haven't created any unnatural. These were very natural links once. And what are the specific metrics we have to decide a bad link? Definitely, we will contact you in case of your assistance by understanding the current scenario.
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Few links can't give you a penalty. Or those few links triggered penguin because you have more "bad links". You should dig deeper and do link audit, seo audit, etc. Even if you think it's not needed, you'll find new areas to improve.
pm me if you wish.
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We have found few external links pointing to our non-existing pages (404). Then we have redirected those non-existing pages to live pages of our website to get link juice from those backlinks. All those links are related to us (anyhow once they are linking to our website). Then our website after receiving those back-links has dropped. It dropped about 7 positions in second page, which we never seen. What penalty it might be?
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Hi Satish
"ranking dropped few days later". On which website? Website you redirected some links there or on website redirected links are pointing to?
Krzysztof
PS. Good DA won't save you from possible penalties but there can be other issues causing ranking drops.
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