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RE: Avoiding Duplicate Title Tags and Duplicate Content
I've been thinking about this more and it brings up a question:
You are suggestion having site.com/cruise1/shoreexcursions/
Should this just be a list with links to the content on site.com/port/shoreexcursions/each-excursion?
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RE: Avoiding Duplicate Title Tags and Duplicate Content
Well put....
Two last questions -
If excursions or hotels had some kind of categorization - for excursions it might be multiple like level of activity, food included, etc and for hotels it might simply be a star rating and price level, would you create a hub page that then can be filtered by these categories and have the cruise and sailing dates as presets or would you just have static pages that have a list of all the excursions or hotels with the same attribute value or just other suggested options based on similarity?
The other similar challenge I face is cruise categorization:
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Destinations/Mediterranean/
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Destinations/Greek-Isles/
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Destinations/Italy/
The last time I checked, Italy was in the Med and so is Greece. Med is being used for cruises that touch more than one country (primarily Greece and Italy) whereas Greece may include cruises that touch Turkey and Italy those that touch Spain and France.
I think that's pretty confusing to customers who are trying to find what they are looking for.
At the high level, it would be pretty easy to categorize into /Med, /Northern-Europe, /Caribbean, /South-Pacific, /Latin-America
But I still get into a corner with the page below this level yet above cruises
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RE: Avoiding Duplicate Title Tags and Duplicate Content
Essentially yes - but perhaps I can share these scenarios:
Cruise 1ABn = cruise itinerary 1 going from A to B at time n
Cruise 1ABm = cruise itinerary 1 going from A to B at time m
Cruise 2ACl = cruise itinerary 2 going from A to C at time l
So yes the shore-ex and hotels in port A on cruise 1 could be identical if inventory was the same, although on some occasions, we may not have the exact same set of partners. Cruise 2, also going through port A could also have a similar subset as well.
From a user perspective, being able to see all the shorex and hotels on a single tab associated with my cruise is easy, but from a content and title tag perspective, leads to many duplicates content blocks on page and in some case a completely duplicate.
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RE: Avoiding Duplicate Title Tags and Duplicate Content
Sure thing...
So here is website: www.windstarcruises.com (we're just around the corner from Moz!)
Example:
Cruise Overview Page, Itinerary Page, Shorex, Hotels,
http://www.windstarcruises.com/cruise/Italy/Classic-Italy-and-Dalmatian-Coast/
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Cruise/Itinerary-Ports/Italy/Classic-Italy-and-Dalmatian-Coast/
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Cruise/Shore-Excursions/Italy/Classic-Italy-and-Dalmatian-Coast/
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Cruise/Hotels-Tours/Italy/Classic-Italy-and-Dalmatian-Coast/
http://www.windstarcruises.com/Cruise/Offers-Pricing/Italy/Classic-Italy-and-Dalmatian-Coast/
Here is what I've had developers already do:
(1) Previously, each of the different sailings on same cruise had same URL, differentiated only with query parameters. Once a sailing went into past, that URL would expire and would not render. Now the URLs all display without query parameters. When the URL is presented without query parameters, the next sailing is presented and if the URL presented has expired, it redirects to the URL without parameters.
(2) All the URLs with parameters are canonical to the URL without
Next when I started looking at Title Tags, they are a complete mess and this is what led me to realize that the entire taxonomy is a mess.
What I'm considering:
(1) Combining Overview and Itinerary Pages
(2) Creating Port Pages accessible of Itinerary Pages, one Port per Page
(3) Content on Port Page would be constant
(4) Link off of Port Page would go to Excursions Hub for port and as appropriate Hotel Hub
(5) Excursion Hub would then list all the Excursions at that port linking to unique Excursion Pages with calendar showing which cruises it is available, price and availability
(6) Hotel Hub would be similar to above
(7) Each excursion and hotel would have links to similar set so that it is easy to move from excursion to excursion and hotel to hotel
If I did this, I would have one page per hotel, one page per excursion and could use the calendar to change a query parameter to pull in the appropriate data. This would eliminate duplicate content and allow very unique titles, descriptions and would likely act as bait for each of the vendors to provide their own link in. I could also show reviews and other added content.
My biggest issue would be how to allow someone to keep omnipresent what cruise they are considering associated with the excursions and hotels they are looking at.
I think short of this change, I'm going to have a mess
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Avoiding Duplicate Title Tags and Duplicate Content
Hi - I have a question on how to both avoid duplicate title tags and duplicate content AND still create a good user experience. I have a lot of SEO basics to do as the company has not done any SEO to this point.
I work for a small cruise line. We have a page for each cruise. Each cruise is associated with a unique itinerary. However the ports of call are not necessarily unique to each itinerary. For each port on the itinerary there are also a set of excursions and if the port is the embark/disembark port, hotels that are associated. The availability of the excursions and hotels depends on the dates associated with the cruise.
Today, we have two pages associated with each cruise for the excursions and hotels:
mycruisecompany.com/cruise/name-of-cruise/port/excursion/?date=dateinport
mycruisecompany.com/cruise/name-of-cruise/port/hotel/?date=dateinport
When someone navigates to these pages, they can see a list of relevant content. From a user perspective the list I see is only associated with the relevant date (which is determined by a set of query parameters).
Unfortunately, there are situations where the same content is on multiple pages. For instance the exact same set of hotels or excursions might be available for two different cruises or on multiple dates of the same cruise.
This is causing a couple of different challenges. For instance, with regard to title tags, we have <title>Hotels in Rome</title> multiple times. I know that isn't good.
If I tried to just have a hub page with hotels and a hub page with excursions available from each cruise and then a page for each hotel and excursion, each with a unique title tag, then the challenge is that I don't know how to not make the customer have to work through whether the hotel they are looking for is actually available on the dates in question. So while I can guarantee unique content/title tags, I end up asking the user to think too much.
Thoughts?
Best posts made by Marston_Gould
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Avoiding Duplicate Title Tags and Duplicate Content
Hi - I have a question on how to both avoid duplicate title tags and duplicate content AND still create a good user experience. I have a lot of SEO basics to do as the company has not done any SEO to this point.
I work for a small cruise line. We have a page for each cruise. Each cruise is associated with a unique itinerary. However the ports of call are not necessarily unique to each itinerary. For each port on the itinerary there are also a set of excursions and if the port is the embark/disembark port, hotels that are associated. The availability of the excursions and hotels depends on the dates associated with the cruise.
Today, we have two pages associated with each cruise for the excursions and hotels:
mycruisecompany.com/cruise/name-of-cruise/port/excursion/?date=dateinport
mycruisecompany.com/cruise/name-of-cruise/port/hotel/?date=dateinport
When someone navigates to these pages, they can see a list of relevant content. From a user perspective the list I see is only associated with the relevant date (which is determined by a set of query parameters).
Unfortunately, there are situations where the same content is on multiple pages. For instance the exact same set of hotels or excursions might be available for two different cruises or on multiple dates of the same cruise.
This is causing a couple of different challenges. For instance, with regard to title tags, we have <title>Hotels in Rome</title> multiple times. I know that isn't good.
If I tried to just have a hub page with hotels and a hub page with excursions available from each cruise and then a page for each hotel and excursion, each with a unique title tag, then the challenge is that I don't know how to not make the customer have to work through whether the hotel they are looking for is actually available on the dates in question. So while I can guarantee unique content/title tags, I end up asking the user to think too much.
Thoughts?
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