Google Page Rank Dead?
-
Does PR still work?
I have sites that have PR3 and get almost no traffic and sites that are PR1 and get thousands of uniques per month.
My PR on my main sites haven't moved for about 7 years, even though we've grown significantly.
I know lots of you are going to jump in with get the MOZ toolbar, which I already have done, and I agree, it's great ...
But can anyone tell me about what's going on with Google PR?
Is it still active? Or has Google abandoned? I noticed that the Google toolbar is not even available for Google Chrome. That should say something ...
- If you like this question, do me a favor, and give me a THUMBS UP!
-
While we don't know the exact math, I think the existence of two PR measures (internal and Toolbar) is pretty much established fact at this point. TBPR is a simplification of a much more continuous PR scale and is almost definitely non-linear. The difference between TBPR 6 vs. 7 is MUCH greater than the difference between TBPR 1 vs. 2, for example.
-
People polarize quickly on this one, but I think Charles' middle ground is probably closest to the truth - PR is still a part of the algorithm and is a raw measure of link popularity. The trick is that:
- It's just one ranking factor of 100s
- Toolbar PR approximates Google's internal PR
- Toolbar PR could be 1-3+ months out of date
Keep in mind that TBPR is probably on a logarithmic scale, so the distance between low TBPR's is much less than the distance between high TBPRs. In other words, the difference in "real" PR between TBPR 1 and 2 is MUCH smaller than the difference between 6 and 7.
-
I agree with others. It's not dead (I know there's been recent updates), but it's not necessarily an important factor. It's simply an indicator that Google releases.
-
PageRank don't seems to be dead. PageRank is kind of reputation of a page in Google's eye which essentially don't mean that highest PR sites ranks in top positions of SERPs. Ranks in SERPs are searched query specific while PageRank seems more generic weight of page in google's eye.
It is assumed (as well as said by google) that PageRank is only based on backlinks. But I have got PR3 and even PR4 for websites which don't have any link, but have good number of pages having quality content.
In my opinion, PageRank is overall weight of page in Google's eye. And more importantly... two pages having same PR does not mean their value is same of Google. I think internally Google score webpages from 1 to 1,000.000 (or something big), and show the rounded figure in form of PR1 to PR10.
PageRank is the quickest way to guess the worth of any page.
-
It's pretty much a useless metric these days - and remember that there might be two seperate 'Page Ranks' - the one on the toolbar and the internal one that Google has in it's vault
-
I've seen changes within the last 6 months to websites PR so I believe it's not dead. It gets updated randomly Google doesn't update it publicly very often because they don't want SEO people to focus on this number.
If you want more info on PR what this video...http://www.seomoz.org/blog/what-is-googles-pagerank-good-for-whiteboard-friday
Here's a quote from the Video explaining PR:
"PageRank is useful as a raw indication of link popularity. Meaning that, PageRank doesn't take into account anchor text. It doesn't take into account whether the sites are related to each other. It doesn't take into account whether some of the sites maybe have been flagged for spam. It doesn't take into account whether the page is relevant to the actual search query"
-
I'm interested in hearing the latest word on that... I don't believe it's "dead" as in "no longer updated, no longer based in anything meaningful" but it seems like many SEO's believe that its not relevant - but why that is, I'm not sure so I'm wondering if someone can give us the quick rundown.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Page not ranking because of React.js ?
Hey guys, I'm struggling with this part of my website which uses react.js . My developers used this saying it's much better and much quicker (which I think so too) but we have really low traffic coming from google compared to the other parts of the website (not using react.js). Moz gives me a score of 85% for the page but we get less than 100 visits / day and we were targeting 10.000 visits/day giving the traffic of this section in our competitors website (our whole website has 60.000 visits / day). (Section is online since 3 months now) Can you help me see what is wrong there ? I'm in Belgium so we have the website in 3 languages (FR/NL/EN) but the most important ones are FR & NL. FR : https://gocar.be/fr/prix-voitures-neuves/Audi/A3/A3-Sportback/1-0-TFSI_39CER NL : https://gocar.be/nl/prijzen-nieuwe-wagens/Audi/A3/A3-Sportback/1-0-TFSI_39CER EN : https://gocar.be/en/price-new-cars/Audi/A3/A3-Sportback/1-0-TFSI_39CER Main competitors having a better ranking than us (exemple in FR) : https://www.moniteurautomobile.be/modele--audi--a3/prix.html https://www.vroom.be/fr/prix/audi-a3/citadine-2012/197 Cheers ! Jean-Philippe
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | Gocar_be0 -
Wrong Pages Ranking
Good Afternoon We had an issue a while ago with the incorrect pages ranking in Google for some of our key terms. For example the page ranking for the term in Hotels in Spain was an individual information page for one particular hotel in Spain rather than the top level page which is optimised for "Hotels in Spain" The individual property page was ranking around 36-40 so we tightened up all the internal linking structure to ensure the term "Hotels in Spain" was pointing to the correct page and de-optimised the individual property page for the term. After a few weeks, everything seemed to be working and we were ranking top of second page for correct page however, ranking report today has reversed our good fortune and the incorrect page is ranking in a low position Any further suggestions or advise would be very much appreciated. Ideally, I don't want to remove the page that is ranking as it's still relevant for a search for that particular hotel
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | Ham19790 -
Do 403 Forbidden errors from website pages hurt rankings?
Hi All, I noticed that our website has lot of 403 errors across different pages using the tool http://www.deadlinkchecker.com/. Do these errors hurt website rankings? Thanks
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | vtmoz0 -
I am lost at where to go. My optimization rating is 95% + and rankings are on pages 4+. I would like to know what I should do to increase my rankings.
My site is Glare-Guard.com. My Domain Authority has not moved from 17 in a long time. i have done everything to optimize the different pages. I have 90%+ ratings for the various pages, yet I am still not even close to the first page for many of the keywords I am looking to rank for. Do you have any tips or ideas? Should I try to rewrite my content and add more information? I am just at a loss for where I should go to get the right traffic to my site. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | bigskyinc0 -
Google no longer highlighting keyword times in titles within rankings?
Anyone else seeing this? Or is it a test rather than full rollout?
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | Net66SEO0 -
Google is ranking the wrong page for the targeted keyword
I have two examples below where we want it to rank for the targeted page but google picked another page to rank instead. This is happening a lot on this site I just recently started to work on. Example 1 Googles Choice for key word Motorcycle Tires: http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/cl/50/Tires-and-Wheels What we want Google to choice for Motorcycle Tires: http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/c/49/-/181/Motorcycle-Tires Other pages about Motorcycle tires: http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/d/12/Motorcycle-Tires We even used the rel="canonical" for this url to point to our target page. http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/c/50/-/181/Motorcycle-Tires Example 2 ATV Tires We want this page to rank http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/c/43/81/165/ATV-Tires however google has decided to rank http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/t/43/81/165/723/ATV-Tires-All that is acutally one folder under where we want it.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | DoRM0 -
Why does this site rank on the 1st page
i dont mean to be calling any site out im just scratching my head on this one.- I can't see any signal that would make it worthy of ranking on the first page for keyword loose diamonds. page http://www.jewelryexchange.com/DiamondResults.aspx Am i missing something all tools seem to say the site isn't worthy- All help appreciated
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | DavidKonigsberg0 -
Google.ca vs Google.com Ranking
I have a site I would like to rank high for particular keywords in the Google.ca searches and don't particularly care about the Google.com searches (it's a Canadian service). I have logged into Google Webmaster Tools and targeted Canada. Currently my site is ranking on the third page for my desired keywords on Google.com, but is on the 20th page for Google.ca. Previously this change happened quite quickly -- within 4 weeks -- but it doesn't seem to be taking here (12 weeks out and counting). My optimization seems to be fine since I'm ranking well on Google.com: not sure why it's not translating to Google.ca. Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | seorm0