What are your thoughts on using Dripable, VitaRank, or similar service to build URL links too dilute link profile???
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One of my sites has a very spamy link profile, top 20 anchors are money keywords. What are your thoughts on using Dripable, VitaRank, or similar service to help dilute the link profile by building links with URLs, Click Here, more Info, etc.
I have been building URL links already, but due to the site age(over 12 years) the amount of exact match anchor text links is just very large and would take forever to get diluted.
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Unfortunately, a lot of those links you may have a very hard time removing. They were probably part of a network that was used to sell links, and the webmaster does little or no upkeep. I also know that some webmasters or companies will ask you for money to remove the links.
Another problem is, you have to do A LOT of research to determine which links are hurting you to the best of your ability, Otherwise, if you go about it with carpet bombing approach, you might remove some links that are actually helping you. This will cause more harm.
Given your difficult situation, this is what I would do:
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Article directories : remove all duplicate copies of articles and leave ONE copy on the best site, i.e Ezinearticles. You may even want to remove them all and put them on your own site if it is a real quality article.
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Try to remove as many forum comments, spammy profile links.
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Other links (i.e blog posts, etc) - for each keywords/page affected, find the the backlinks to that page. Use OSE AND Webmaster tools. WEBMASTER TOOLS IS YOUR FRIEND HERE. Google is telling you which links are being pointed to your site. If you know if a spammy link, and Google is not showing in the links to your site, you better focus your energy elsewhere.
Make a list of these sites, and examine the site: spammy jibberish content; excessive links pointing out; their backlinks (they may 100s of backlinks with spammy keywords like "viagra" or "payday loans," this is a red flag that the site is likely hurting you); links to pills, gambling, and porn.
Approach the sites via contact, email, and whois contact. Document ALL correspondence and attempts to clean up.
Once you feel you have done all you can, send Google another reconsideration request with all the documenting as you can (be thorough). Specifically, tell them which links you have made good faith attempts to remove and have been unsuccessful.
Hopefully, they will lift the penalty or let it expire.
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What you seem to be talking about is the reconsideration request. If he has not gotten a message from Google warning about unnatural links it is probably a bad idea to file a reconsideration request.
Read this: http://searchengineland.com/penguin-update-recovery-tips-advice-119650
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Thanks for the response, that is what i thought too, but don't know what else to do. The top 20 anchors are exact match keywords. the first occurrence of a generic anchor or url anchor isn't until about 21-25 depending on what tool i use to check the link profile. I need a large number of URL links in different variations mysite.com, www.mysite.com, http://www.mysite.com, click here, etc, etc. I have already removed all links I could, contacted 100s of webmasters to remove links, most successfully, some never answered. i have detailed this and sent in a reconsideration request and google replied that they STILL saw unnatural links. What would you do in a situation like this? I'm running out of ideas and would appreciate some good advice.
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Thanks for the response. I guess i was hoping someone had used a service like the ones i mentioned and had some tips or experiences with them to share. I realize that i should not be spamming, but i really don't think i can build enough links to dilute the link profile without some service like this, and the site is completely out of google's top 50 for all the money keywords, and supporting keywords. Traffic is down from 1500 visitors a day to about 200, need to get some traffic ASAP. Don't have to much time left to wait for some signs of recovery
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What are your thoughts on using Dripable, VitaRank, or similar service to help dilute the link profile by building links with URLs, Click Here, more Info, etc.
I hope that all of my competitors are using this stuff. I think that it is just like dipping a crappy link profile in really cheap chocolate and telling Google its a Snickers bar. It will not take them long to find out.
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Joel,
Thanks for the response. We used to rank very well in a highly competitive vertical, all the websites that used to compete with us are in our same position, we were in such a highly competitive industry that everyone who used to rank was doing AGGRESSIVE SEO campaigns, not necessarily black hat, but very aggressive white/grey hat . We probably were guilty of some other on page grey hat techniques, which have been fixed since. I believe that we are being penalized for excessive anchor text optimization and I'm hopping some generic or URL links might help us dilute our anchor text distribution enough to get below the exact match % limit and get out from the penalty. does this make any sense to you??
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What I would do is first determine if the spammy links have had an impact on your SERPS. You can have a crazy amount of low pr links but if you have some golden links in there you should be fine. Google most likely is already discounting those spammy links but because of your domain age and if you have high quality links you should be fine. Now if you confirm that those links are causing you harm ( perform a site audit ) then you can use googles webmaster tools to send google a message that you have attempted to have those links removed. Obviously you should actually attempt to remove them and keep a log. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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That might solve part of your problem. Unless you know that excessive use of targeted anchor text is your ONLY problem, then this might not be a good idea. It is likely that if you have a "spammy profile," then you have links from spammy sites. Going out there and spamming some more doesn't sound like a good long term solution.
Even if anchor text was your only problem, you might cause other problems by aggressively getting "easy links."
Find the keywords that were hit hardest and actually delivered traffic. If you can identify the worst links for that page/keyword (i.e spammy sites linking to porn, pills, or gambling), then remove them to the best of your ability. Then try to add some useful content to the page itself. Then promote that content to related sites. It will take time, but it is the right answer.
Good luck!
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