Panda Or Penguin Hit ?
-
Hi,
My site was hit in april and did get a warning message in wmt for unnatural links , so i removed links and filed a reconsideration request , google then revoked the penalty .
that was june , the site still has not recovered and thinking maybe i was hit by both panda and penguin , at that time i did not have analytics installed was using awstats .
I have attached awstats for april So you can see when the traffic drop started .
So was i hit by panda , penguin or both ?
-
Panda is about a lot more than just ads on the website - it involves quite a few factors related to the quality of the content on a website (having too many ads is one of the factors).
Here is a blog post from Google listing some quality factors related to Panda: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2011/05/more-guidance-on-building-high-quality.html
-
Hey Dean
If you really want to review this in earnest you need to go back to Feb 2011 and start reviewing things from there. Check for traffic drops that correspond with known updates to Penguin and Panda which you can get from here:
http://www.seomoz.org/google-algorithm-change
Then, you also need to compare this against the time you got the email from webmaster tools stating there was a manual penalty (which, of course is in addition to any Penguin and Panda issues).
So, resolving a Manual penalty is pretty tough so if you have sorted that, odds are you have got rid of a bunch of the bad links so may well have cleared up any Penguin issues but you really need to review the affected keywords and make double sure.
First step, check all the dates you lost traffic to get an idea of what your problems are then use that information to guide your hand going forward.
From our experience helping people with various penalties we can generally recover specific keywords by fixing the anchor text and we can recover some traffic with Panda penalties but reports of people recovering in entirety are thin on the ground (WPMU is the only one that springs to mind).
Ultimately, if you picked up a Penguin, Panda and Manual Penalty this year, then you probably have a whole bunch of problems that you need to review that go beyond trying to resolve the actual penalty issues.
Some useful further reading:
http://www.seomoz.org/blog/fat-pandas-and-thin-content
http://www.bowlerhat.co.uk/blog/penguin-diagnosis-and-recovery-strategy/
If you want more feedback and anything more than just a generic overview we would really require a link so we can take a look at the site itself.
Sure hope this helps though!
Marcus
-
I am pretty sure that you have been hit by Penguin, I have the same traffic drop approximately at same dates. (24-25 of april)
Even if Google revoked penalty it doesn't meen that your rankings will return.
At the the time you need to understand how Google filters work:
Penguin is all about wrong on-page optimisation and unnatural linkbuilding! Don't buy from link farms and etc.
Panda is all about ads on website.
Thanks
Russel
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Penguin 4.0 update: drop in results end of September
Has anyone noticed certain drops in keyword rankings on/around 29 September? Has this to do with the Penguin 4.0 update? I read that this hasn't come "bug-free". Will this be adjusted the upcoming weeks? Or is this drop content-based based on the new algorithms and the content needs to be adjusted/updated?
Reporting & Analytics | | Mikrocentrum0 -
I've hit a wall. What's next?
I've been working on creating content and optimizing my website for the past 18 months, and have seen decent gains in organic traffic. Recently my keyword ranking increases have slowed dramatically, despite adding additional content. I'm hoping a fresh set of eyes can spot something that may be holding me back. I appreciate any feedback the MOZ community is able to provide. One area of concern/confusion is the number of pages indexed according to GSC. The number tends to go up and down, and I can't figure out why. Of the roughly 8,000 pages that are submitted through the sitemap, it says only around 1,100 are indexed (sitemap page). The index status page says I've got 7,500 pages indexed. Kind of confused on that one. Anyway, my website is MetroAtlantaHome dot com. Thanks everyone!
Reporting & Analytics | | Kyle Eaves0 -
No Data in Custom Report set to 'Hit' Scope
Hi Guys, Been having a problem recently with a custom report I have set up... I want to find out number of sessions, bounce rate, session duration etc for different dimensions on my site - store area, store name, product type etc but I cannot seem to get the data to filter through to the report I have set up when 'Session' scope is selected. If I set it to 'hit' then I do get the data but this will only record the first instance of a dimension being triggered (from what I can gather) rather than all dimensions that might be triggered during a complete session. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Thanks, Dan
Reporting & Analytics | | SEOBirmingham810 -
How do i know that my website affected by Panda Updates ?
If website is affected by Panda updates then how do we know that? If have any type of tools or strategies or alert to find out affected website by Panda then update as soon as possible.
Reporting & Analytics | | renukishor0 -
Blog Analytics broke for two weeks. How do I account for these hits in my monthly report?
The Analytics on my blog broke for about two weeks before I realized it. I need to come up with some estimated numbers for total pageviews, referrals, direct hits, etc to add to my monthly SEM report. I took the average of the past four 2 week periods to come up with the number of hits. Should I just add this number to the total hits on my site? Or are these hits being counted twice if they went on to the main site? http://www.howlatthemoon.com
Reporting & Analytics | | howlusa0 -
Penguin 2.0 has hit business
Howdy,
Reporting & Analytics | | MarzVentures
I represent a UK based workwear company called myworkwear.co.uk and our rankings have fallen following Penguin 2.0. We are a relatively small company compared to many competitors and have noticed the arrival of large companies in the serps. Many are not even in the workwear sector and pretty irrelevant which is annoying. We have not received any correspondence from Google, but our fall from grace particularly for the word workwear has been big. Do you think our link profile is an issue? Click here: Link Profile Is it worth emailing Google? We have attempted to remove bad links, is it worth using disavow? My feelings are we should: 1. Email Google via Disavow tool about the links we have already tried to remove with proof of attempt.Go through link profile with fine tooth comb and contact an even wider range of webmasters for link removal.Then email Google via disavow tool (best to try removal via email to websites first).2. Begin to build new content and links, even guest blogging is now coming under scrutiny from Google – There really is no bluffing Google anymore.3. Build site conversion.4. Develop a competition theme (10 years old anniversary) combined with say MyWorkHero, etc. Use this for social networking.5. Increase social networking, but is this experts are predicting this is the next kick up for seo.6. Having improved conversion, trial adwords.7. Continue to develop the site in a structured, non manipulative manner. – Look at it as a good site is a successful site in the eyes of Google and the rewards will follow. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.0 -
Glitch or Penguin?
Hi all, Our queries in GA have bombed, strangely since Penguin. We've gone from 12,000 impressions to none. Traffic is ok, we've not seen a decline. IS this a GA glitch or should we panic? Thanks
Reporting & Analytics | | brightonseorob0 -
Gah, unfairly hit by massive google penalty :/
Hi Guys, We're the folk behind http://wpmu.org and have just been hit by a massive fall in google referrals, see attached 😕 There's no reason in webmaster tools for this, were not engaging in any spammy or dodgy practices and are a massively established and well staffed news *& tutorial site for WordPress (one of the biggest, in fact!) We've upgraded WP, and requested a referral, but without actually knowing what's going on it's extremely hard to figure out what to do 😕 Maybe we're a wrong hit regarding this: http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/04/googles-new-search-algorithm-to-crack-down-on-black-hat-webspam/ ? At the moment pretty much the only thing I can think of is one of our authors being dodgy, but I don't think they would be, and I don't know how to go about finding out. Anyway, if you guys could take a look and let us know anything you think might be up, and share any advice that'd be super super appreciated! Cheers, James Screen-Shot-2012-04-27-at-8.39.32-AM.png
Reporting & Analytics | | WPMUDEV0