Possibly a dumb question - 301 from a banned domain to new domain with NEW content
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I was wondering if banned domains pass any page rank, link love, etc. My domain got banned and I AM working to get it unbanned, but in the mean time, would buying a new domain, and creating NEW content that DOES adhere to the google quality guidelines, help at all? Would this force an 'auto-evaluation' or 're-evaluation' of the site by google? or would the new domain simply have ZERO effect from the 301 unless that old domain got into google's good graces again.
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You do not want to 301 a penalized domain to a new domain. The correct solution is to take and any all steps necessary to remove the penalty. At that point you can proceed as you wish.
If the site is penalized by Google and had it's PR reduced to 0, then a 301 will not pass any PR since your site does not have any to pass. The only thing the 301 can do is let Google know the old penalized domain is related to the new site which is generally not a good thing.
The only case where I would 301 a penalized domain to a non-penalized domain is where the following conditions where true:
1. The new domain complies with Google's standards
2. The old domain is being actively corrected so it will comply with Google's standards soon
3. The purpose of the redirect is primarily to move existing traffic and is not related to backlinks.
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I'm under the impression that if you 301 the links from a banned site to a new site, it could harm your new sites ability to rank. I can't seem to find a link at the moment to verify that, but believe I read something recently.
I agree with EGOL. Create a new site with great content. Consider fixing your old, banned site in the background. File a reconsideration request. After it is back in Google's good graces, 301 pages to the new site with similar content.
*edited a typo
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Nobody knows how those links will impact your new site. Even if they know now, they can't say how they will impact the site in the future. Search engines change their mind about things often.
Just build the new site... build a fantastic site... and you might be surprised at how popular it becomes.
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