Will signing up for Google Places affect my national rankings
-
OK, Here is a question which I can't find but think people have thought about. I would like to know others opinion.
I have had a site that ranks well under generic national keyword terms. (not geographically specific) Its a small website, only 10 pages.
We get 85% of our business from online applications. These applications come from all over the united states.Our SERP rankings generate 70% of all our traffic.
My question is this: we operate in a state where we don't do business. We are a virtual business. Should I sign up for google places? Will It hurt my national SERP rankings?
-
My pleasure - sounds like your experience will be your most powerful asset! Sincere wishes for success!
Miriam
-
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Although I have been on the vendor side of the equation for over 7 years doing SEO, SEM & Consulting, I am now on the client side and making these decisions take on a whole new importance.
Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
-
Hi Fidelity One,
Thank you for clearing that up for me. I misunderstood your business as a virtual one. Your questions is one I have seen commonly asked, and one for which no Local or Global SEO firm that I know of has every published a firm answer. Google certainly hasn't. You can see a small discussion on this topic in the comments on a post of Rand's from last year:
http://www.seomoz.org/blog/one-dead-simple-tactic-for-better-rankings-in-google-local
Here is what I can tell you, but please take this advice in the form of an opinion rather than a hard fact. Local and organic SERPs are running on two separate, distinct algorithms. Let's think, for example, of a franchise like McDonalds. They have a national headquarters and are an international business, but they also have Place Pages for each of their storefronts. Google is not going to think McDonalds is located at 21 Center Street SmallTown USA because they've got a Place Page for a storefront there, right? Granted, few businesses have the fame or clout of McDonalds, but the same factors should ostensibly apply to any business.
In your shoes, I would view Local as something I was doing in addition to my traditional SEO. In fact, you could start this out extremely small as an experiment (with, of course, stat tracking software in place). Instead of going the typical route of a purely local business, implementing geographic data sitewide, you could create just one page on your website with a locally-optimized URL, title, header, content, business name, street address and local area code phone number. In creating your Place Page, you could do what franchises do and link the Place Page directly to this URL instead of to the homepage of your website. Then, you could watch over a period of, say, 6 months to see what actual effect this has had.
Does your organic traffic drop in any way? How about your rankings?
Are you getting new visibility and links thanks to your local promotion? New traffic? New phone calls and business?
My guess is that you would NOT see any detriment to your organic standings, but because of the unwieldy and honestly unpredictable nature of Local in Google, you should treat your case as a distinct experiment. If you are new to Local, you need to know coming into this that Google Places/Maps is notoriously buggy and that folks like myself and Mike Blumenthal have been blogging about the crazy bugs in the system for years now. Stats were recently published that 8 million users have signed up for Google Places, but Google continues to pursue their policy of not offering real, meaningful customer support. When things go wrong (and they often do) getting help can be virtually impossible unless you've got an in with Google.
I don't want to scare you off, but do want to be sure to add this cautionary note if you are entering Local for the first time.
The other thing to remember is that Places is not actually an opt-in venue. If your address exists anywhere on the web (such as in a yellow pages ad or other directory), Google can create a Place Page for your business without any action on your part. So, if your address is already out there anywhere, this is all the more reason for you to actively participate in Local so that you have at least some control over your data.
I hope my thoughts have helped you to reach a decision about this important step! Thanks again for coming to Q&A to ask your question.
-
We are located at a physical address and people can come through the door and work with us one to one, however that is not the preferred method.
My bigger issue is that if we only have one physical address and register it with Google Places, will it affect the rankings we are receiving in other areas of the country.
For example, in some cities, we are on the first page under the term "city"+keyword, but if I register our corporate address with Google Places, will it affect the other local SERPS?
-
Greetings Fidelity One!
Thanks for coming to Q&A to ask your question. If am correctly understanding your description of your business as being a virtual one, then this is not a question of rankings but rather one of appropriateness. Virtual businesses are not deemed to be Local by Google.In order to qualify as local, you must have a real physical street address (not a P.O, box or virtual office, a unique local area code phone number and a legal business name. Clients must either come directly to the street address to do one-on-one business with you or your staff must depart from the physical street address to do business with clients (as in the case of chimney sweeps, carpet cleaners, etc.)
If any of these criteria do not fit your business model, then Local just isn't the right space for you.
Hope this helps!
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Google: What factors contribute to rank a landing page in a specific country?
Hi community, I would like to know what is the criteria to rank a landing page in specific country Google search. For example, if we want to rank our landing page for "GDPR Australia", what are the factors which will impact beside writing the cotent related to the above mentioned keyword? Thanks
Algorithm Updates | | vtmoz0 -
Any suggestions why I would rank 1 on google and be on 3rd page for bing/yahoo?
Currently the site I'm working on ranks very well on google rankings but then when we cross reference into yahoo and bing we are basically in the graveyard of keywords. (bottom of 3rd page). Why would that be? Any suggestions or things I can do to fix this or troubleshoot it? Here are some things I can think of that might affect this but not sure. 1. our sitemap hasn't been updated in months and URL changes have been made 2. Onsite for yahoo and bing is different from google? 3. Bing is just terrible in general? 4. Inbound links? This one doesn't make sense though unless the search engines rank links in different ways. All jokes aside I would really appreciate any help as currently the few top ranked keywords we have are about 30% of our organic traffic and would have a huge affect on the company if we were able to rank as we should across all platforms. Thanks!
Algorithm Updates | | JemJemCertified0 -
Is there a we to get Google to index our site quicker?
I have updated some pages on a website, is there a way to get Google to index the page quicker?
Algorithm Updates | | webguru20140 -
How can I check Googles Page Cache ?
Hi I use to have a handy tool in Firefox (Google Toolbar) that was very handy for checking page ranks and what date a page had been cached. For a while with the newer versions of Firefox I cannot seem to locate this useful tool, Can anybody recommend any useful tools for checking the above. Thanks Adam
Algorithm Updates | | AMG1000 -
What Is The Deal Between Indeed and Google?
Anyone notice the love affair of Indeed and Google lately? Indeed is cannibalizing the top 30 SERPs for job related keywords. Seeing keywords where Indeed has 10-15 of the organic listings in the top 30. Compete.com is showing a +8% increase in search volume between in April and May. But it seems as if they really started to cannibalize the SERPS since the Penguin update at end of May. Any one else noticing this?
Algorithm Updates | | joncrowe0 -
How Do Geo Rankings Work?
I know that's vague, so let me specify. I recently got a client on the second page for a relatively difficult 2 word keyword. That is when the location is set to Chicago, Il in Google and private browsing in Chrome (so I'm not logged in). This is great because Chicago is the more important location (the client is located there and that's what his location is when he searches in Google). But when he goes home to the suburbs and searches, the ranking completely disappears. Why would he rank in a much more desired location such as Chicago vs a suburb way out of the city? Is that something you can control or target in terms of optimization? It's difficult trying to explain why this is happening to clients.
Algorithm Updates | | MichaelWeisbaum0 -
Google Cached Pages
I made some on-site changes to a site last week, in particular their page titles. This was all done on the same day at the same time. Now, one of those pages, got re-indexed on August 8th and has my updated changes, which also helped with my ranking. The other page I made changes to still shows a cached version from July 27th, which is before I made the changes. Why wouldn't google have an updated page from August 8th for both pages, not just one?
Algorithm Updates | | MichaelWeisbaum0 -
Classifieds and Google Panda
It seems Google's Panda update is targetting low quality sites with little unique content (I know there's more to it than that). It makes sense that they may want to do this but what about classified sites. They may use some scraped content as well as unique ads, and the ads may lack content as they rely on the users writing the ads. However, they are helpful to the people that use classifieds. Because of these factors, these sites are suffering with the release of the latest Panda update. Any advice for classified sites and how they can combat the rankings drops???
Algorithm Updates | | Sayers0