Anyone use and like Brute force Evo 2

[joemas99]

What exactly does it do and does anyone know someone who got in trouble using it?

With linkvana and bookmarking demon and manually posting to blogs would anyone need this/

[Marcus_Miller]

Hey Joe, I have read a bunch of your questions today and let me tell you, currently, you are in a bad place SEO wise. Steve, myself and many others have given you great, informative answers yet you cast them aside, and their efforts aside as it is not what you want to hear.

You are looking for the 'secret of SEO link building' or the 'SEO Tool that allows you dominate the first page of google!!!!!!' - in essence, you are not looking to do things the right way, you are looking for spam tools to cheat your way to the top.

Steve said it above and I have said it in another of your threads but you are not alone, many of us start out there, in the place that you are in at the moment. Looking for the easy fix, the easy win, the trick, secret or tool that will let you get to the top and you know what, long term, you are wasting your time (and ours a little).

The longer you are in this game, the more white hat you become. Are you looking to do some anchor text link spam to promote some burner domains or are you looking to cheat? If you have a real business, with a future, then stop looking for these easy answers as they simply don't exist.

Sure, there are strategies, and easy wins, but if your whole approach is to spend time looking for low value links then buddy, you are just wasting your own time and everyone here will tell you the same thing.

No one here is going to give you success stories about such a tool as everyone here is working their asses off to do things the right way and that involves a whole lot of graft, hard work and patience.

Joe - if I can give you any advice it would be to stop looking at these tools, set realistic goals and maybe start reading the link building posts on this site. There are tons of solid strategies and approaches and none of these will be a waste of your time, money or effort and certainly none of them will end up with you having to burn the site and move onto a new domain.

Sorry if this comes off a bit harsh buddy, think of it as tough love from someone who has been burnt before.

Cheers
Marcus

[SteveOllington]

Creativity. It's as simple as that.

Let's see if we can get something going here. Tell about your website you want to rank for, what do you do, and what are you passionate about in that work?

[joemas99]

I appreciate your concern. Very few links are deserved in my opinion, but these discussions are helping me to sought what to do. I realized earlier that even a good product like Linkvana can be frowned on by Google because it has it's own network. Better to get links from independent sites. I won't use Linkvana or other network type link software for my main site.

i can see doing articles and blogging etc. get links my competitors have ,but something has to have more pull for rankings.

[SteveOllington]

Sorry, perhaps I didn't explain myself very well there.

What I'm trying to say is that it's not the software that is the problem here, it's the frame of mind. The mindset of getting undeserved links instead of deserved links. The deserved links will provide much more success and for a lot longer, so the best thing to do is not go after undeserved links but create great stuff and promote it to get deserved links.

[joemas99]

Though I appreciate your input on my questions, and certainly don't want to discourage you from answering again, I don't relate very well to analogies.

I trust my ability to sort through facts. I don't think you understand what linkvana does. If the proper objectives are met, than any programs to help get you there are good in my opinion. If it's a violation of Google's policies , then it's not o.k.

Using software to automate a process that is normally manual should be o.k. Now if the result results in stuff that 1. Either hurts your site rankings or 2. Is in violation of Google's policies. Then It's not good.

So does anyone know if anything Linkvana does is in violation of any of Google's policies? Because it sure makes a good addition for getting contextual links.

[SteveOllington]

It is a little different yes, but it's still something to be avoided as it follows the whole wrong concept of what SEO is.

Imagine this...

There are two people who make kids toys. One wears a white hat, and one wears a black hat.

The white hat guy hand makes lots of stuff but one of them is a beautiful dolls house out of wood, with furniture inside, lots of detail, loads of decorations, etc...

The black hat guy sits on a factory over a conveyor belt just churning out replica plastic, tacky junk.

The black hat guy will sell a few of his junk but soon enough it stops selling on the basis that it's cheap tat.

The white hat guys doll house, along with many other of his creations is picking up in pace... it's value has gone up instead of down. It's attracting attention from media outlets, having photo shoots, and will one day be considered an antique of high value due to it's individual and original craftsmanship. Because the dolls house is so amazing it's attracted attention to his other creations too, people are noticing and buying other things of his now.

The black hat guy is still trying to find his next product that will sell. He's tried a few different ones now but they all work out the same as the last, their low quality just doesn't get them anywhere. He may find another temporary fix but that won't last long and he'll just be searching again and wasting time over more that don't last soon enough.

So there you have it, my little analogy Which guy would you rather be?

Linkvana is not something the white hat guy would use.

A little tip for future reference too, try to avoid typing in all capital letters. I'm sure it was accidental but some people consider it as shouting in forums, etc... so it won't help with getting questions answered

[joemas99]

TELL ME MORE ABOUT LINKVANA? SEEMS DIFFERENT

[SebastianDyer]

Well said!

[SteveOllington]

Joe, trust me on this... I used to be on the dark side before I knew better. It was all about the software, from Xrumer and Scrapebox, to Linkvine and everything else you can find out there... people are right when they say it leads to no good. Yes it can provide some short term success but it's extremely volatile and it's nowhere near the success you'll get if you're patient and you do it properly. It's like living life on the edge so to speak, but with all of your time and efforts, and it can (and will) quickly come crumbling down, followed by complaints and a realization that you've not really been doing SEO at all, you've been spamming. There's no creativity involved, no quality, no pride of work or achievements, just rankings that shoot up then disappear and the constant unnerving feeling that you're always waiting for the next one to do the same, which it always inevitably will. You get lost in it, you lose your passion and become a robot just clicking buttons... always knowing that it can't last and that soon, it will all go wrong.

You'll figure out that it's not why you got into SEO... somewhere along the line you were lured in by this quick win with software, so you went further and further down that path. Take my word for it, that path just gets darker and narrower and leads nowhere. Turn back, head for the light and discover that it's the creativity and quality that gets to fulfill the needs, to expand, and to prosper in the long term

And stop reading Warrior Forums lol... it's good for some stuff but stay out of those software threads!

[johnshearer]

Social Bookmark Demon and Article Demon are an ineffective use of your time.

[SebastianDyer]

I am guessing it is just software that submits to thousands of low quality directories and bookmarking sites. The result is short term success but a ban from Google; it is certainly no way to build a brand.

[joemas99]

It kind of does, but so does linkvana, and that has been met with a lot of success by people who talk about it.

[SebastianDyer]

Don't waste your time with stuff like this - it looks like mass spamming software that will lead to no good.

[SebastianDyer]

Don't waste your time with stuff like this - it looks like mass spamming software that will lead to no good.