Algorithmic penalty perhaps but what is it?
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I've discovered that when google crawled my home page my ranking for all keywords dropped. I've submitted a reconsideration request as I was sure I wasn't breaking the rules. The response was that no manual penalty had been applied to my site. Therefore it must be an on site algorithim penalty?
I thought it could be duplicate content as I have many posts that are in multiple categories so maybe that was it. Since then I've made efforts to ensure the posts in the categories are varied. I also thought it might be too many on page links so I removed categories that weren't needed as I have categories in my navigation and sidebar.
So far though no improvement. I wonder if anyone here can take a look at the site and offer any suggestions as to what might be causing this algorithmic penalty?
The site is http://www.top-10-dating-reviews.com (some adult content!)
I'm really struggling to figure this out so any help much appreciated!
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Will do. many thanks for your help. Hope that's the problem!
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remove it temporarily and see if it fixes the issue? many an affiliate site have been caught loading malware on to devices by this kind of means - be careful
if you find the problem goes away great, contact the affiliate partner and ask them what is going on and to fix the problem - you won't be the only one in this boat i'm sure
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The code it's suggesting is malware is code I put on the site myself. As an affiliate it generates a pop up box for people to click and go to the external site. I want to keep it if possible so I'm not sure in fact that it is malware. How's best to proceed? Like I say there's nothing showing up in webmaster tools as malware.
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you don't want GWT to show it you want to catch it first
find the offending code and delete it, its from an advert or affiliate site of some kind - could be a plugin sneaking it in - it's happened to me before on WP sites a plugin updates and brings bad code with it.
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Thanks for that. There's nothing showing in webmaster tools with regards to malware but if that's the case I'd better get to fixing it. How do I go about it though?
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found the problem I think.
Malware found ona few pages on your site
http://sitecheck.sucuri.net/results/www.top-10-dating-reviews.com/
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I don't think it's related to adult safe search as still doesn't show when I change the filter. struggling with this one!
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If your page is adult in nature then it's possible that Google has taken it out of the "Safe Search" index. I believe the filter is set to moderate tolerance for most people. It's possible that the latest crawl saw enough adult content to put it in the "non safe" area. Try changing your safe search settings to show everything and then see if you are ranking.
There could be other issues but without having a good look at the site (which I really don't have a desire to do) no one will be able to say for sure.
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gosh i don't know what to tell you honestly. i can't really continue exploring your site for fear someone will walk into my office and wonder what the heck i'm up to...
but let us know if you ever figure it out i'm curious and good luck.
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The keywords aren't particularly difficult to rank for and are in the 30 - 50 % keyword difficulty using the SEO moz keyword difficulty tool. I have ranked these same keywords for other sites I operate without too much of a problem. That's why I'm so confused as to what's happened here. I'm sure its something on site.
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It happened on 9th March at 8.37 am. It seems that google crawled my home page at the time and the traffic just dissapeared. I can't post keywords as they're adult in nature. Effectively I'm targeting the page titles of the category pages on my site.
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Without going through your site (for obvious reasons) I can tell you that there shouldn't be any Penguin-imposed penalties present. Unless your site was tagged for phishing or some other un-trustworthy violation I can't think of what would cause this other than you are just after some very competitive keywords.
Judging from the site's content I would guess the latter to be the case.
Looking at your backlink profile quickly it's obvious that this site was recently created. A lot of times Google rankings for a new site will start high and drop quickly. I suggest hitting the SEO trail hard to regain your rankings.If Google hasn't manually imposed penalties, that's a green light. Get to SEO'ing the crap outta that thing my friend.
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Hi Sam,
When did this happen? (as precise as you can be)
Also can you tell us a list of a few words that were hit.
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