Search Pages outranking Product Pages
-
A lot of the results seen in the search engines for our site are pages from our search results on our site, i.e. Widgets | Search Results
This has happened over time and wasn't intentional, but in many cases we see our search results pages appearing over our actual product pages in search, which isn't ideal.
Simply blocking indexing of these pages via robots wouldn't be ideal, at least all at once as we would have that period of time where those Search Results pages would be offline and our product pages would still be at the back of ranking.
Any ideas on a strategy to replace these Search Results with the actual products in a way that won't hurt us too bad during the transition? Or a way to make the actual product pages rank above the search results? Currently, it is often the opposite.
Thanks!
Craig
-
Thanks again for the answers!
Yeah, totally getting you on the Search within search issue. Wish we had known about that a couple of years ago. Did an analytics check and most of our non-home page traffic is coming from Search Results in serps. According to inurl, we have about 200,000 indexed SearchResult pages and based on some data I pulled up, they are our highest traffic non-home page pages, but also the least converting.
I think 301 re-directs on these would be rather tricky. I mean, if someone does a search on our site, they should get the search results page showing them several options, not be shot directly to a single product which might not be the one they need. It would be rather confusing for our regular customers as well.
But I agree we need to do something here, because conversely, our product pages, while getting the least traffic are the highest converters.
My only thought is that we would need to:
1. Find a list of all of the indexed Search Result pages, or at least the ones that have been hit over the last year or so. What would be the best way to do that? Screaming Frog? Analytics?
2. Create a script that analyzes these for the keywords used in them and find a suitable item to re-direct to based on the keyword extracted.
3. 301 re-direct them.
4. Change our current search results urls to include something that would not be included in these original pages so separate them from the old pages that are now being re-directed so that current searchers don't get re-directed as well.
5. Set the search results pages to no - index. Is that the best way to handle that? If we did robots.txt, then we would be breaking the link flow of the site wouldn't we? Don't we need the bots to crawl the search pages to lead to the product pages, or is the sitemap all that is needed?
Thanks for the time and answers!
Craig
-
Hello Craig,
I've dealt with this issue on several client sites and typically opt for noindexing the search pages (sometimes even blocking in Robots.txt) as recommended by others here - especially if you can't make any of them static.
In terms of the product pages, it could be helpful to the visitor if they search for "Specific Product A" for you to just go ahead and land them on the "Specific Product A" page, either via a 301 redirect from the search result page, or by serving up the product page in the first place. This would take care of usability as well as your issue with search engines.
I would not gradually implement something here, as that could be even more confusing to search engines. Do you want the search pages indexed or not?
What I have seen is a temporary blip in traffic (a few weeks at most) followed by improvement in traffic due to an improvement in product page rankings as a result. Every situation is different though, and this assumes good implementation.
Looking at this from Google's perspective, understand that they ARE the search engine so why would they want to send the user to yet another set of search results? Google should know which page on your site to send visitors. They don't need an intermediary, which is why their guidelines say this:
"Use robots.txt to prevent crawling of search results pages or other auto-generated pages that don't add much value for users coming from search engines."
Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
-
Oh, and also, just to clarify.... Are you saying what we should do is 301:
http://oursite.com/SearchResult.html?Text=Monkeys+Ate+Soul
to, let's say
http://oursite.com/ProductPage.html?Title=TheMonkeysAteMySoul
That would be ok?
Thanks!
-
Thanks Jesse. Sounds like a big undertaking, but something we need to move on. Question... How accurate is "site:yoururl.com inurl:search"? I just did a test on it and the number of results that came back is way lower than what it should have been based on how our sitemaps are shown to be indexed in webmastertools.
Thanks for taking the time to answer!
Craig
-
I would be careful about allowing search pages to continually index. You will most likely end up with hundreds if not thousands of low value pages that may cause you to fall into a Panda algo penalty. Simply do a site:yoururl.com inurl:search (or whatever parameter you use ) to see how many pages you have indexed for search results.
You could find the page search pages that are out ranking your product page and 301 them if the traffic is substantial. Otherwise, I would say that by noindexing the search pages, you should reduce the competition for those product pages and they should start to rank and hopefully convert better.
I've had to do the the same for several sites because of a panda penalty so I can't speculate on traffic levels.
-
Thanks Zora! Yeah, these are all going to be dynamic unfortunately, and there are a lot of them. In the hundreds of thousands. So, we would need some type of transition strategy. I would be concerned that a one time no-index all at once would be quite problematic.
Just curious if anyone else had to transition in this way and was able to do so successfully.
Thanks for the feedback!!
Craig
-
We had the same problem, but decided to embrace it.
I started optimizing and adding content to a few of the search results pages (and made them static, not dynamic) and now they rank fairly well.
However, for dynamic search pages I suggest you noindex them.
Google recommends it, and it's best to follow their recommendations.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Optimizing a product category vs. a bespoke content page
Hi there, I work for a furniture retailer in the UK and I have a question about ranking for search phrases. Say I'm looking to rank for the keyword phrases: 'Tempur mattress' and 'Tempur mattress liverpool' and I have a category at: www.mysite.co.uk/tempur/ which list all of our mattresses, would I be better trying to optimize this page for those key phrases or would I be better generating a new page, say, www.mysite.co.uk/tempur-mattress-liverpool.html Thank you for your input.
On-Page Optimization | | Bee1590 -
Page title in Google search is defferent
Hello, Google changes the title of the main page only for my sites in this way: What I configured: My page title | my site name How it shows in Google: My site name: My page title If I checked some meta tags analyzer it will show my configured page title and also in Bing.com So what do you thing about it. Best Regards, Housam
On-Page Optimization | | anubis20 -
Page Layout Updates and Mobile Pages with Ads
I have been trying to do some research on the Page Layout Algorithm and Top Heavy Ads and much of what I read does not mention about mobile pages as apposed to desktop. I am curious if the Page Layout updates can be effected by mobile pages as well and if there is any good articles on this subject. Also is this Algorithm been incorporated into its regular algorithm or do we still have to wait for refreshes to see the impact? Cesar
On-Page Optimization | | cbielich0 -
Noindex child pages (whose content is included on parent pages)?
I'm sorry if there have been questions close to this before... I've using WordPress less like a blogging platform and more like a CMS for years now... For content management purposes we organize a lot of content around Parent/Child page (and custom-post-type) relationships; the Child pages are included as tabbed content on the Parent page. Should I be noindexing these child pages, since their content is already on the site, in full, on their Parent pages (ie. duplicate content)? Or does it not matter, since the crawlers may not go to all of the tabbed content? None of the pages have shown up in Moz's "High Priority Issues" as duplicate content but it still seems like I'm making the Parent pages suffer needlessly... Anything obvious I'm not taking into consideration? By the by, this is my first post here @ Moz, which I'm loving; this site and the forums are such a great resource! Anyways, thanks in advance!
On-Page Optimization | | rsigg0 -
Home page or landing page?
Hello, I want to ask a question related to that - Should we put keywords in the home page title if we wish to position another landing page better for particular keywords? I have read in one website about SEO that it's good the main keywords of your website to be positioned in homepage title also. f.e. Let's say we have website about web-design and our company is named Company Ltd. The title of the home page is "Company Ltd. - Web design, SEO, etc" We have also another inner page named "Web design | Company Ltd.". So should we leave the first page name only "Company Ltd." and the landing page's name "Web design | Company Ltd." . I don't know if they both have the same keyword in their title they won't compete with each other.
On-Page Optimization | | HrishikeshKarov0 -
Keywords per Page
Iv'e looked through the QA here and there are a lot of different conflicting opinions on what is a generally a good idea. For Example Florist Clearwater Clearwater Florist Florist in Clearwater Florist in Clearwater FL Clearwater FL Florist Clearwater Florida Florist Florist in Clearwater Florida Florist near Clearwater FL etc.... So for something like this example....should I have one page represent all of these keyword iterations or split them among different pages?
On-Page Optimization | | BenGMKT0 -
Product pages optimization impact on sub level domains.
How great of an impact will the optimization of product pages have an impact on a sub level domains?
On-Page Optimization | | Martin_Harris0 -
Is there a SEO penalty for multi links on same page going to same destination page?
Hi, Just a quick note. I hope you are able to assist. To cut a long story short, on the page below http://www.bookbluemountains.com.au/ -> Features Specials & Packages (middle column) we have 3 links per special going to the same page.
On-Page Optimization | | daveupton
1. Header is linked
2. Click on image link - currently with a no follow
3. 'More info' under the description paragraph is linked too - currently with a no follow Two arguments are as follows:
1. The reason we do not follow all 3 links is to reduce too many links which may appear spammy to Google. 2. Counter argument:
The point above has some validity, However, using no follow is basically telling the search engines that the webmaster “does not trust or doesn’t take responsibility” for what is behind the link, something you don’t want to do within your own website. There is no penalty as such for having too many links, the search engines will generally not worry after a certain number.. nothing that would concern this business though. I would suggest changing the no follow links a.s.a.p. Could you please advise thoughts. Many thanks Dave Upton [long signature removed by staff]0