Two GTM tags
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Hi guys,
I need some help on the following:
My client has different websites worldwide all with country extensions and on overall .com domain. These websites (and GTM accounts) are all managed by local agencies. We would like to implement a cross domain tracking GA account in order to see some overall trends and numbers. We don't want to implement our codes in the existing containers as they are in many cases managed by local agencies. Is it really negative to implement two GTM containers on one website?
Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Sander -
No - I think you'll want 2 different UA codes AND 2 different data layers. You'll also want to test the hell out of that implementation and make sure it's working well.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Thank you Kane! Very helpful!
So what you are saying is that it is completely safe when we are using two different GA codes? Or should I still rename the data layer in this case?
Sander
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According to a few other sources online, having two GMT containers on the page may cause triggers to fire twice. It appears the fix is to rename your data layers on at least one of those containers, but other pages recommend only using one. So, your cross site container probably needs some more customization, and then close monitoring to make sure stuff is working correctly.
- http://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/50289/2-google-tag-manager-containers-double-triggers
- http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21465360/two-different-google-tag-manager-accounts-in-same-domain
Additionally it's worth mentioning that if both GTM tags each have GA tags in them, that is fine if the UA codes are different - full details can be found here: https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1032400?hl=en. What you don't want is two GA tags with the same UA code.
Is it safe to say that your client has admin access to all of these random GTM containers? If it were me, I'd prefer to own those containers and give each agency access to the appropriate one.
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Thank you Martijn, very valuable! Any other opinions?
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Hi Sander,
I'd say no, it's not really bad. It will have a small impact on the load time of your site probably but besides that it will enable you to do most of the things via a tag manager which will provide you with more flexibility.
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