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    • Sammyh
      Sammyh last edited by

      When using     cache:     on google, and clicking on Text-only version, our site has the top menu gibberish on top?

      My feeling is that this take away SEO juice from our title and focus keyword.

      Our website is culinarydepotinc.com

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      • BlueprintMarketing
        BlueprintMarketing @R0bin_L0rd last edited by

        Robin is right Navigation can help with link equity when used so it is not overwhelming the user or G

        This is a great post on Navigation & SEO

        https://www.distilled.net/blog/seo/site-navigation-for-seo/

        Hope this helps,

        Tom

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        • R0bin_L0rd
          R0bin_L0rd @Sammyh last edited by

          I wouldn't do that just to push keywords closer to the top of the page. What I'd aim for is what's most useful for users - are there a lot of elements in the nav that don't add to user experience? Navigation can help with link equity flow around the site because it's a way to have links from every page to certain other pages, but putting everything in the nav dilutes link equity and can have a negative impact on user experience.

          Essentially, as I say, it's about prioritising the important stuff and being ready to cut the elements that aren't helping.

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          • Sammyh
            Sammyh @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

            Ok thanks Thomas!! 🙂

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            • Sammyh
              Sammyh @R0bin_L0rd last edited by

              That makes sense. What if we were to have only the top level categories and important info on top? Would we be just wasting our time by doing that?

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              • R0bin_L0rd
                R0bin_L0rd last edited by

                Forgive me if I'm misinterpreting but if your concern is that your top navigation is pushing things like your H1 further down the page, I wouldn't worry about that. Google understands that web pages have a number of different elements to them and it's very common for a page to have the top navigation above the H1.

                I definitely wouldn't remove the navigation or move it further down the page - it's a key part of the user experience and if the site is difficult to navigate that's likely to have a negative impact on the bottom line, and search ranking as a secondary effect.

                Hope that helps!

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                • BlueprintMarketing
                  BlueprintMarketing @Sammyh last edited by

                  It’s in the header the navigation will shows up Frist google can understand that part.

                  let me take a good look I will send you a free DeepCrawl and look at the content

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                  • Sammyh
                    Sammyh @BlueprintMarketing last edited by

                    Question was if this might be the reason why we are not ranking for focus keywords. It's most likely not bad but does that weaken our SEO by having all other text before the focus keyword.

                    Can you please explain more in detail what an absolute url does and why it's supposed to be that way?

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                    • BlueprintMarketing
                      BlueprintMarketing last edited by

                      Adding  " cache:https://www.culinarydepotinc.com/ " to Google shows me your missing some things but no it is not bad one thing I would take your URL's & make them absolute

                      like

                      | href="/Themes/CulinaryDepot/Content/css/owl.carousel.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> |
                      |   |

                      should be

                      | href="https://www.culinarydepotinc.com/Themes/CulinaryDepot/Content/css/owl.carousel.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /> |
                      |   |

                      Hope that helps,

                      Tom

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