If Fetch As Google can render website, it should be appear on SERP ?
-
Hello everyone and thank you in advance for helping me.
I have a Reactjs application which has been made by Create-React-App that is zero configuration. Also I connect it using Axios to the API using Codeigniter(PHP).
Before using Reactjs, this website was at the top Google's SERPs for specific keywords. After Using Reactjs and some changes in URLs with no redirection in htaccess or something else, I lost my search engine visibility! I guess it should be caused by Google penalties!
I tried using "react-snap", "react-snapshot" and so forth for prerendering but there are so many problem with them. Also I tried using Prerender.io and unfortunately my host provider didn't help me to config the shared host!
Finally I found a great article that my website eventually display in Rendering box of Fetch As Google. But still in Fetching box, the dynamic content didn't display. But I can see my entire website in both "This is how Googlebot saw the page" and "This is how a visitor to your website would have seen the page" for all pages without any problem.
If Fetch As Google can render the entire of the website, is it possible to index my pages after a while and it would be appear on Google's SERP?
-
Absolutely not a problem. I do think that SSR would be a really positive way forwards for your website! Hopefully that will begin to get the trend-line going up again instead of down
-
Thank you Effectdigital for this response and for your spending time to me. I read twice to get understand and it was fully explained all things in details. I'm gonna searching more about some of your keywords that you mentioned above. I have planed to run SSR in a few months later and finished this problem as well.
-
From the sounds of it, it's not a penalty - it's just a botched migration (with no redirects) to a new platform which is less search-accessible than the previous platform.
Fetch and render has many pitfalls. It (WRONGLY) makes webmaster's think that, every crawl Google does - will be to that level of depth. What you get with fetch and render is a best-case scenario, where Google are deploying all their crawling and rendering technologies for you including rendered browsing (to capture generated content)
You have your base (un-modified) source code, and then you have your modified source code. To get at that (which is far richer, especially for sites which are mostly generated) you have to run a crawler which uses a headless browser (something like Selenium or Windmill, through something like Python) in order to fire the scripts and harvest the modified source data. These days that doesn't take extreme amounts of time, but it does take extreme amounts of time when you compare it to base-source scraping (on average 10x longer). It may still seem like seconds to you, but believe me it takes much more time than near-instant source-code scraping
Google's mission is to index the web. Do you really think they're going to take a random 10x efficiency hit because, modern devs have decided that more modified content is faster and better?
Well... they will and they won't. Google have confirmed that they can and do crawl in this way. But results from moves just like yours, are constantly showing us that they don't deploy this tech for everyone - and even when they do, they don't use it all the time for every crawl (scrape)
If you're in control of a huge site that Google can't afford to lose from their index (like compare the market, Barclays, coca-cola etc) then you have a lot more room to play in this area and reap the benefits of a lightning fast CMS (and front-end deployment, obviously better UX)
If you're not in that position, don't be surprised when these things happen. You have to have some perspective on yourself and what your site is worth to the web. To you it's everything, to Google it's one grain of sand on a vast ocean-floor. And it's one grain of sand which is making Google's life harder, by hitting the efficiency of their core MO (mission objective)
There may be some stuff you can do to fix this, or it may be time to swallow a bitter pill and do a roll-back.
Looking at your source code:
^ the above link will only work in Google Chrome!
It is obvious that it's extremely bare
Let's download the 'base' source code to a PHP file:
It's actually just 3 lines of code, but it probably takes up the space of ... well, a lot more than that (hundred lines maybe)
But here's your modified source code:
It's WAY BIGGER, it's 49 lines of code and even then it's highly condensed
My assertion to you, is that not enough of your coding and content resides within the 'base' source code, most of it is in the modified source code
It's a tough lesson to learn. Yeah, Google 'can' do many things. Yeah their analysis tools put their best foot forwards and show you what they 'can' do. But 'can' and 'will'... they're different cookies man
if you have a powerful enough server (even if you don't maybe it's time to get one!) - maybe you could have all the scripts fire server-side and then just fire users (and search engines) the pre-rendered base-source. Or do something clever like that. This is not game-over, but you'll need to get really smart now. I wouldn't recommend bothering to do that without retrospectively going back (FAST) and doing a full, URL-to-URL 301 redirect migration project (using .htaccess or web.config)
The faster you act, the more likely your recover
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
How will google respond to allowing multilingual search terms for a single language website?
We would like to set up a website in English language only and promote this in various European countries. As said the website will only be available in English language, but we will keep translations (google translate) in backend. When a user in France then enters search query in French language in browser, a search can be done in French content, but we will present relevant content in English. Does anyone have any experience with that? Will it be allowed given the fact that the result (in English language) will probably not include any of the terms that was searched on (in French language).
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | hansdef0 -
Can 301 redirects that are inaccurate cause Google suppressions on rankings?
In an interesting study by DeganSEO titled 'Negative Impact of 301 Redirects - A Case Study' a drop of rankings was observed when popular blog posts were redirected to product pages. One hypothesis is that the suppression is due to topical difference between the redirected pages (blog posts) and the target page. The topical difference issue is an interesting one when you consider it in the context of website migrations. We always recommend that 301 redirects are done at a page level and that if an equivalent page doesn't exist to just 301 anyway but to the most logical page. If you think about it Google are likely to frown on this because a) it's not a good experience for the user - 404 would be more accurate for them
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | QubaSEO
b) it's lazy - if you have good content that has gained authority/trust then create the same content on the new site don't trytp pass that to an entirely different page. Thoughts? Experiences?0 -
Google Change of Address for previously penalised website?
Hey guys Would you use the 'change of address' tool (https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/83106?hl=en) for a site that was previously penalised, pointing it to the new URL? Cheers Jeremy
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | jeremycabral0 -
Website not coming up properly on Google
Hello, our website (http://www.roguevalleymicro.com/index.php) is not coming up properly on Google search (for example, when you search for Rogue Valley Microdevices on Google). We believe that there is something wrong with the website source code, and Google cannot index it properly. However, your Crawl Test results did not indicate any such problems. Can someone help us with some advice please?
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | medved441 -
Title tags seem to be going against Rand and suggestions here, what can I do? Can you help me please?
Hi to all, Ok so I have been beating myself up trying to figure out how to create a good ranking title for my websites homepage. My competition uses commas in its title tags But these are 100% against what Rand and many posts say here. I watched his whiteboard where he says don't use commas. There are posts that say, don't use commas. The biggest one is mortonbuildings(dot)com - followed by - lesterbuildings(dot)com They basically have the same title tags with commas. So what's the catch here? What am I missing? of course these sites have Great Domain Authority, but I swear what they are doing is going against what Rand and many other seo professional's are preaching. I thought it should read better for visitors? But to me it looks like keyword stuffing with a brand name? Any help is greatly appreciated to let me know if these commas and strategies are good to do? or bad news? Again thank you for your time to help a small business. Chris
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | asbchris0 -
Novice Question - Can Browsers realistically distinguish words within concatenated strings e.g. text55fun or should one use text-55-fun? What about foreign languages especially more obscure ones like Finnish which Google Translate often miss-translates?
I am attempting to understand what is realistically possible within Google, Yahoo and Bing as they search websites for KeyWords. Technically my understanding is that they should be able to distinguish common words within concatenated strings, although there can be confusion between word boundaries when ambiguity is involved. So in the simple example of text55fun, do search engines actually distinguish text, 55 and fun separately? There are practical processing, databased and algorithm limitations that might turn a technically possible solution into a unrealistic one at a commercial scale. What about more ambiguous strings like stringsstrummingstrongly would that be parsed as string s strummings trongly or strings strummings trongly or strings strumming strongly? Does one need to use dashes or underscores to make it unambiguous to the search engine? My guess is that the engine would recognize the dash or space and better understand the word boundaries yet ignore the dash or underscore from an overall concatenated string perspective. Thanks in advance to whoever can provide any insight to an old coder who is new to this field.
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | ny600 -
My website hasn't been cached for over a month. Can anyone tell me why?
I have been working on an eCommerce site www.fuchia.co.uk. I have asked an earlier question about how to get it working and ranking and I took on board what people said (such as optimising product pages etc...) and I think i'm getting there. The problem I have now is that Google hasn't indexed my site in over a month and the homepage cache is 404'ing when I check it on Google. At the moment there is a problem with the site being live for both WWW and non-WWW versions, i have told google in Webmaster what preferred domain to use and will also be getting developers to do 301 to the preferred domain. Would this be the problem stopping Google properly indexing me? also I'm only having around 30 pages of 137 indexed from the last crawl. Can anyone tell me or suggest why my site hasn't been indexed in such a long time? Thanks
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | SEOAndy0 -
Keyword density for a website
I wanna make landing pages for my web site .going to write 500 words article but how about keyword density .i wanna insert 4 keywords into that article.looking for expert advices .
Intermediate & Advanced SEO | | innofidelity0