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Hi Gary,

Thank you for your response. They charge £650 or $1000 per day.

Si

Hi,

We are searching for a new SEO provider for www.compoundsecurity.co.uk and I notice that some SEO providers are now billing against results rather than days spent doing the work.

Considering the high prices and lack of work done for those fees by current provider, this is of interest to me.

Does anyone have experience of working this way and or have any advice please?

Thank you

Chers Paul,

Their MD /president is adamant that it is fair. Worked out at £240 or $360

What happened to a fair price for hard work in the online world.... Or anywhere else for that matter.

I appreciate your time Paul.

Regards

Si

Thank you Chris.

As  i thought. I just did it myself and it took 2 mins.

Cheers

Hi All,

I have just had a bill from our webmaster / SEO provider for 3 hours work to embed two youtube video clips on to one page of our site (http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/raidervision-visual-verification-module-use-rdas-and-vx-gprs-wireless-security-systems)

Now i am not an HTML programmer, but i have the ability to insert HTML code in to our eBay pages to embed videos where i want them on a page and it takes less than a minute.

Would love to get feedback from several people on how long this should have taken. Is it really anywhere near 3 hours work. Everything else on the page was already there.

If it means anything, the site is done in Apach

Cheers

Thank you Wissam,

I will give it a try today.

Regards,

Si

Oh and i added a couple of extra internal links

Hi Wissam,

I changed the title, H1 tag, description and the entire copy of the page.

Hi all,

I hope there is a search guru out there who can assist with this.

I decided 3 months ago that our SEO contractors weren't doing as well as they should be and after long discussion, i reoptimised all pages myself. Most are performing better now but sales and enquiries went through the floor.

I have today found ranking information from the week before i made the changes, something i thought i had lost. Now i have this, i have found that one of the two main pages has gone from position 1 to position 38. This explains the problem.

I know all things are not equal and in the intervening months, competitors have updated their sites and links, however, this is the security sector and things don't change much, so, all things being equal, would reinstating the old version of the page be likely to reinstate my previous ranking position or thereabouts? or will the MIGHTY GOOGLE punish me in some way for swapping back to a previous page version?

We use a CMS system and all revisions are stored.

The page in question is www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment and the keyword in question is 'wireless alarms'.

Any help will be greatly appreciated by this non SEO plebe.

Cheers

Si

P.S. feel free to berate me for not recording all pertinent info about rankings BEFORE i star playing around with the site. It was my first time and i have well and truly learn my lesson.

Rock on Robert!!!!

THank you very much for your reply. I had discussed changing the URL but our webmaster said you shouldn't change URLs. What's the downside to that?

In actual fact i have very little idea of what i am doing. I'm 48 and not involved in SEO at all. I have just got sooo fed up of paying £500 ($750) per day for SEO services that produce no results, so i am on a fast learning curve.

All advice is appreciated.

Oh, and the links to the home page happened organically with no involvement by us. Just a very controversial product lol.

Hi there,

searching Google UK for the term 'wireless alarms' returns the following page at position 39'ish -

http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-information/gsm-gprs-alarm-systems

The page that should be returned for that search is -

http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment

The page being returned by Google at present is not optimised in any way for 'wireless alarms' but the page it should be showing is optimised for that term and the Moz grading tool agrees. The correct page also has a higher PA and 533 inbound links and the page being displayed has a lower PA and only 3 links.

Could some kind soul tell me what i am doing wrong please?

Thank you

Si

Hi Joel,

Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately i am still none the wiser. I still don't understand why grader is telling me that the page http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment/construction-site-security-alarm-systems is badly optimised (page rated as F) when it is actually optimised for 'construction site alarm systems. http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment/gsm-gprs-wireless-battery-powered-building-site-security-systems is optimised for 'building site alarms'. I can see no reason why.

I am only a beginner at this, so any further advice you can give using words of two syllables or less would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Si

Hi Cody,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question.  I am not sure it really answers my question. Maybe it does, but i don't understand.I will do some more reasearch.

All the best

Si

Hi there,

Getting to know the Pro tools and can't find an answer to this. Can someone explain for me please?

Using on page grader, I found a couple pages with an F. I scrolled downWTO where it shows the keyword phrases and under each, the URL.

Clicking on the first keyword "Building site alarms"it tells me off essentially for not optimising the page for that term. The URL is "construction site security systems" which are different to building site alarms which also have their own page. I don't understand why is Moz associating this keyword with this page? I certainly haven't told it to.

Please he

Thank you Yiannis, That's something else i need to learn how to do

Dear Yiannis and Chris,

Thank you both for your answers. Is the keyword in the first part of the URL really that important? By first part i mean the actual root domain www.wrieless-alarms.net.

Seems a bit unfair of Google, as it gives a very small number of competitors an advantage that nobody else could optimise for*. In terms of the keywords after the / in the URL,  do you think it would be worth me changing my landing page for wireless alarms from www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment to www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/wireless-alarms-and-security-systems?

• I.E. - Wireless-alarms, wireless-alarm-systems, etc.

HI Doug,

I'm about 50 miles away from you. Thank you for your answer. This leads me to ask, if wireless-alarms.com has such better stats (thank you for picking that up) then why is their .net domain the one with the great position?

I am not in the SEO sector, just a businessman on a steep learning curve.

Many thanks

Si

Hi All,

Could anyone please explain for me why the moz scores that show under SERPs in Google search show one set of values, but when i click on the SERP listing and go to that page, the Moz scores at the bottom of the tab the page is open in are completely different. I.E -

SERP result

1. Wireless Alarms

   <cite>www.wireless-alarms.net/</cite>‎Honeywell, Friedland, Response, Wireless house home intruder burglar alarms and wirefree doorbells chimes and accessories.<iframe class="SEOmoz-iframe" src="chrome-extension://eakacpaijcpapndcfffdgphdiccmpknp/html/serpbar.html#{" settings":{"dmr":false,"dmt":false,"mr":true,"mt":true,"serp-overlay":true,"toolbar-enabled":true,"subdomain-metrics":false,"serp-panel-open":true,"toolbar-position":"bottom"},"lsdata":{"feid":3,"fipl":3,"fmrp":2.0446037910058426,"fmrr":5.396862303226778e-12,"ftrp":1.8723654310590483,"ftrr":9.21604483751679e-12,"fuid":3,"pda":8.903939958502189,"peid":3,"pid":3,"pmrp":1.6026230610187469,"pmrr":1.3566326316606153e-10,"ptrp":1.025503845909542,"ptrr":1.4972548621304158e-11,"puid":3,"ueid":2,"uemrp":2.577887966559377,"uemrr":5.40110633420739e-13,"uid":2,"uipl":2,"ujid":2,"umrp":2.577887966559377,"umrr":5.40110633420739e-13,"upa":23.634692786039714,"utrp":4.9331532541404854,"utrr":1.9684091945588755e-16},"user":{"level":"pro","options":{},"proenabled":true,"aclurl":"http:="" moz.com="" users="" level?src="mozbar","loginURL":"https://moz.com/login","logoutURL":"https://moz.com/logout","apiRequest":"url-metrics","cols":"133146078688","expired":false,"accessId":"pro-RGFkZHlTbXVyZg%3D%3D","expires":1374925378,"signature":"tBSBXpLbBmk073ofsfBwnilmODw%3D","displayName":"DaddySmurf"},"serp":4,"host":"www.wireless-alarms.net"}"" scrolling="no"></iframe>

Page result

<label>Page:</label><label id="Page Authority" class="key lsdata">PA:</label> <label id="SEOmoz-data-PA" class="val lsdata">27</label><label id="mozrank" class="key lsdata" title="MozRank">mR:</label> <label id="SEOmoz-data-mR" class="val lsdata">5.30</label><label id="moztrust" class="key pro-only lsdata" title="MozTrust">mT:</label> <label id="SEOmoz-data-mT" class="val pro-only lsdata">5.61</label><label id="SEOmoz-data-uid">1,950</label> links from 
<label id="SEOmoz-data-uipl">2</label> Root Domains<label>Root Domain:</label><label id="dom-pageauthority" class="key lsdata" title="Domain Authority">DA:</label> <label id="SEOmoz-data-DA" class="val lsdata">24</label><label id="SEOmoz-data-puid">100,262</label> links from 
<label id="SEOmoz-data-pid">3</label> Domains<label>Subdomain:</label><label id="SEOmoz-data-fuid">19,953</label> links from 
<label id="SEOmoz-data-fipl">3</label> DomainsThank you.Si

Hi,

I am trying to rank on page one on Google UK for the term 'wireless alarms'. the page i have optimised for this terms is www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment and i have just completely revamped the text, tags and titles on this in the last 48 hours. It is not showing up in the top 50 yet, but this page http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-information/gsm-gprs-alarm-systems is showing up in position 47 for some reason.

I know i will not get to the top 5 or 6, as these are held by Amazon, Screwfix, Ebay etc., however, i have found something i don't understand.

There is one result in position 4 called www.wireless-alarms.net. But his DA is 9 and PA is 24 and links to his site is 3. Our stats are DA 47 and PA 39 and we have 15,000 links.

Question. How is his SERP position so high?

Also, although i have submited my page (www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-equipment) to Google Index, it is not showing the correct page yet. I guess this indexing can take a few days?

Any suggestions how i can achieve a better position with the correct page being displayed?

I am new to this and on a fast learning curve and want to learn as much as possible. Sorry to keep asking so many questions, but you guys are excellent.

Thank you

Si

Hi Chris,

Thank you for your answer. I appreciate your comments.

Regards,

Si

Hi,

Question from a newbie.

Several years ago, my company invented The Mosquito device which emits high frequency sound to disperse groups of troublesome kids. I guess you could say it went viral. The result was that we have always ranked at position 1 or 2 on Google and never really put any work in to it. It was automatic.

My question is, that over the years we have brought out other products which were not as significant etc. and have put a bit of effort in to rankings in the UK and done OK, however, no we are about to launch something that is going to generate a lot of interest in the security market, but not as much as mosquito.

We have therefore been putting some serious thought in to the name of this product and this is where i am stuck, i have only been learning SEO for a matter of months, just enough to know that i don't know enough, so here is my plea for guidance.

Our company is called Compound Security Systems www.compoundsecurity.co.uk and we make GSM and GPRS communicating security systems that are battery powered and wireless, for use in empty properties, construction sites, farms, etc.

Our new product is one of the above but with a visual verification (camera / video) system in it specifically for EXTERNAL use (there are 1 or 2 for internal use).

The only name we can come up with that is not already in use is 'CompoundVision". Now, going back to Mosquito, we ranked 1 or 2 even though there are millions of pages of content relating to Mosquitos. We have a similar situation with CompoundVision. Compound is part of our company name, the camera systems will also be used to secure compounds, but 'compound vision' is how insects eyes work and there is a huge amount of content out there.

I have run a keyword analysis in Moz.com Keyword analysis tool (see below) but i really do not understand how to draw a conclusion due to the mitigating factors above.

Any suggestions / wisdom would be most welcome.

Thanks

Si

Rank

Page Name and URL / Vertical Result

Page Authority

Page Linking Root 
Domains

Domain Authority

Root Domain 
Linking Root Domains

1

Eye - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye

85.7

5 Image Results

• color-940x940.jpg - indianapublicmedia.org
• trilobite-vision.jpg - www.juniorgeo.co.uk
• hollywood_story(1).jpg - askabiologist.asu.edu
• compound_eye_man.gif - www.phys.ufl.edu
• empire_of_ants-antseye.gif - livingwithinsects.wordpress.com

2

Compound Eyes - Photoreceptors and the Evolution of Vision

https://www.boundless.com/biology/sensation-and-perception/photoreceptors-and-the-evolution-of-vision/compound-eyes/

1

0

54.2

457

3

How is the vision of the compound eye in insects different from ...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_is_the_vision_of_the_compound_eye_in_insects_different_from_human_vision

1

0

91.9

95.4 K

4

The Compound Eye

http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/C/CompoundEye.html

69.7

39

83.3

20.9 K

5

Modeling Insect Compound Eyes: Space-Variant Spherical Vision

http://www.kyb.tue.mpg.de/publications/pdfs/pdf1826.pdf

1

0

87.8

35.7 K

6

Educational animations of vision by insect compound eyes

http://www.physioviva.com/movies/ommatidium_struc-func/

14.2

1

21.1

16

7

B-EYE - The world through the eyes of a bee - Andy Giger

http://andygiger.com/science/beye/beyehome.html

44.3

48

33.5

74

8

The Evolution of Arthropod Eyes

http://www.d.umn.edu/~olse0176/Evolution/insects.html

1

0

95.6

103 K

9

Insect Color Vision: Compound Eyes | A Moment of Science ...

http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/insect-color-vision/

42.1

6

69.9

3.29 K

10

compound vision

http://www.compoundvision.com/

17.7

1

15.6

5

680

100

3 M

Hi Jesse,

I will keep you appraised.

Thank you for your support.

Regards,

Si

Hi Jesse,

Thank you for your reply. I am getting real people like you telling me one thing and the SEO college tutor telling me another. Personally i can see benefits in both. I like to see the key information in the title like it is at the moment. My other side that refuses to use text speak and enjoys the written word likes a flowing title.

I am going to leave it until this time next week, collect the analytics and then change style and repeat for a week and see what works best.

Have a good weekend and i always appreciate advice.

Si

Dear William and Mike,

Excellent answer guys, thank you so much. Considering how much a truncated title could screw it up, i'm surprised this is not more widely known. Especially by the 'expert' tutor at SEO College.

Have a great weekend both.

Si

Dear William and Mike,

Excellent answer guys, thank you so much. Considering how much a truncated title could screw it up, i'm surprised this is not more widely known. Especially by the 'expert' tutor at SEO College.

Have a great weekend both.

Si

Hi,

I am fairly new to SEO and have just noticed the end of my title text has been cut off by Google in the serps results.

Everything i have read tells me titles should be maximum of 70 characters, however, Google is only displaying 54. See below

Security systems | wireless | battery powered | Police...

Nobody else on the page is showing more than 54 characters.

Am i missing something obvious?

Any and all help gratefully appreciated.

Thanks

Si

Hi Andrea,

Wow, this is harder than i thought. Lots of conflicting information around, but what you guys are all saying makes sense, so i will give it a try.

Thank you for taking time out of your busy lives to help.

Have a great weekend.

Si

Hi Jesse,

Thank you for your advice. Everyone is saying pretty much the same thing. I am doing the SEO College course that Moz promote and i optimised my title tag the way they suggest, however, the consensus here seem to be to make the title read more like a sentence.

All the very best.

Si

Hi Mike,

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my question. Do you mind if i ask you another? When i change my title and do a 'fetch as google' and submit the page to index, how long should i wait before checking my keyword ranking data to see what difference it has made?

Kind regards,

Si

Hi,

Can anyone assist a newbie please?

My keyword 'Security Systems' is giving me position 1 on page 1, but the title it is using is not the page title. I am assuming for some reason it has made it up, please see below. The actual title tag says -

<colgroup><col width="420"></colgroup>
| Security systems | wireless | battery powered | Police Approved | CSS |

Google is showing -

Compound Security Systems: Wireless Security Systems | Battery ...

1. <cite>www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/</cite>‎Manufacturers & suppliers of The Mosquito Device & Professional industry compliant and Police recommended battery powered wireless security systems.‎Contact us - ‎Mosquito Anti-Loitering Devices - ‎Security Equipment - ‎Installers<iframe class="SEOmoz-iframe" src="chrome-extension://eakacpaijcpapndcfffdgphdiccmpknp/html/serpbar.html#{" settings":{"dmr":false,"dmt":false,"mr":true,"mt":true,"serp-overlay":true,"toolbar-enabled":true,"subdomain-metrics":false,"serp-panel-open":true,"toolbar-position":"bottom"},"lsdata":{"feid":1245,"fipl":315,"fmrp":4.717881718426137,"fmrr":3.169235978744307e-9,"ftrp":5.245402699173709,"ftrr":8.283399271183101e-8,"fuid":15756,"pda":47.20670031521297,"peid":1266,"pid":315,"pmrp":4.634793943915049,"pmrr":1.137485303730264e-7,"ptrp":4.949510322693934,"ptrr":1.6938187788875737e-7,"puid":15777,"ueid":510,"uemrp":4.693787066897207,"uemrr":2.520503065617982e-10,"uid":1060,"uipl":191,"ujid":1038,"umrp":4.96103855611017,"umrr":5.477715129904515e-10,"upa":55.929113684261466,"utrp":6.066855084050327,"utrr":2.1655670926371268e-10},"user":{"level":"pro","options":{},"proenabled":true,"aclurl":"http:="" moz.com="" users="" level?src="mozbar","loginURL":"https://moz.com/login","logoutURL":"https://moz.com/logout","apiRequest":"url-metrics","cols":"133146078688","expired":false,"accessId":"pro-RGFkZHlTbXVyZg%3D%3D","expires":1374249469,"signature":"M%2Bh%2FXh4OS%2BAMtT2j6kuntWSTvNI%3D","displayName":"DaddySmurf"},"serp":1,"host":"www.compoundsecurity.co.uk"}"" scrolling="no"></iframe>

If anyone can tell me how to correct this, i would very much appreciate it.

Regards,

Si

Hi,

Thank you for your answer, i appreciate it.

We are in the UK security industry B2B and very few people use social media and we are just starting. I am not worried so much about people getting notifications and receiving duplicate content because they are using several social networks. In this industry, if they use one network, it is a miracle. My concern is the duplicate content and Penguin.

Obviously i will try to make content differ as we go forward, but content generation is not easy for such a small company as ours.

So all in all, do you feel that if i post duplicate content on Linkedin, facebook and G+, that it is not going to fall foul of google?

Many thanks

Si

I am just getting in to social media for my company and i can find an answer to my questions. Different people give a different answer.

Question: i have written a post and uploaded it to our Google+ page. If i upload the same post / content to our Facebook page, will this fall foul of the 'duplicate content' rule with Penguin? Or does that rule only relate to websites?

Any Guru's out there with an answer?

Much appreciated.

Si

Hi Adam,

Thank you for your answer, it tells me what i wanted to know. Now i have another voice in my head telling me to generate more news stories. Just what i needed lol.

Kind regards,

Si

Hi Guys,

Just watched Randi's last White Board Friday. He was talking about Google shake0ups and the fact that Google is more often returning results where there is a news carousel at the top of page one.

Has anyone seen any research to show if people who are looking for a product / solution are actively clicking on these news items or not? And should this news carousel be considered the number one spot, or is the number one spot still the fist true SERP result shown below it?

Many thanks

Si

Hi Karl,

Thank you too!

Both you and Matt have cleared this up for me. Essentially providing the link is relevant and from a relevant source, it's useful irrespective of rankings to a greater or lesser degree.

Very few people in the UK security sector use social media. I have been looking at it, but just don't see it working for us as there is not enough people using it.

Have a great day.

Si

Hi Matt,

Thank you very much!!

I appreciate your time.

Hi,

Having read dozens of your blogs and found them highly informative, i have to ask a question.

I am kicking oout our SEO company and have taken over the SEO myself with some excellent results. Our SEO providers tell me that links from any site (irrelevent of their DA) are good, providing they are comming from a relevant source. We are in the security industry and according to MOZ, we have a DA of 52. If i can get a link to our site from another company in our industry but they have a DA of 10, is this really beneficial for me? Info i have read in Moz blogs suggest it is n ot a good idea.

Please help.

many thanks

Daddy Smurf

Hi All,

I have labeled my keywords, some are branded and some aren't and i have set them accordingly. I know get the the 'manage brand rules' section and even having watched the tutorial twice, i still don't know what this is for as i have already labeled my branded keywords. Can anyone clarify for me please?

Many thanks

DaddySmurf