Thanks for sharing the interesting info Evan !

Have a great weekend !

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Dan

thanks for commenting hashtag

and are you now going to try and show that content as per John Muellers/Googles comments that they will be discounting hidden copy ?

Have you noticed any change in ranking conforming to when you hid the copy ?

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dan

Thanks for the excellent response Ray, this is exactly the info i was after

Re crawling indexing, Absolutely !! I think people presumed because it was still being crawled and indexed then everything was ok, but theres no reason why being crawled & indexed means that Google is not heavily discounting it and i think given JM comments that this is now very likely, so as you confirm, best to show all unique copy

Thanks

Thanks Sheena

The scenario im looking into this for is for a client for whom i wrote a load of home page body copy which they then got dev to hide 2 3rds of behind a 'read more' button and then text drops down.

The text inc keywords anchor tex rich links to sub pages to help on page seo so I presume that i should request this recently hidden copy should now be re-revealed since likely not counting towards the on-page seo anymore ? (the sites just been redesigned so no option to redesign again) but can get the copy unhidden or leave 'as is'

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Dan

Thanks Karl

so you think if its hidden is not contributing so i should reveal it ?

The contents wanted/needed so i don't want to get rid of it just want to know if its contributing at all when hidden or if as John Mueller said its discounted, so it should be re-revealed to get the seo benefit of keywords in the copy and anchor text rich links within it to sub department and product pages ?

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Dan

Hi

Anyone know latest thinking re 'hidden content' such as body copy behind a 'read more' type button/link in light of John Muellers comments toward end of last year (that they discount hidden copy etc) & follow up posts on Search Engine Round Table & Moz etc etc ?

Lots of people were testing it and finding such content was still being crawled & indexed so presumed not a big deal after all but if Google said they discount it surely we now want to reveal/unhide such body copy if it contains text important to the pages seo efforts.

Do you think it could be the case that G is still crawling & indexing such content BUT any contribution that copy may have had to the pages seo efforts is now lost if hidden. So to get its contribution to SEO back one needs to reveal it, have fully displayed ? OR no need to worry and can keep such copy behind a 'read more' button/link ?

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Dan

he he

https://twitter.com/sugarrae/status/535823812143497216/photo/1

Good info thanks

Good advice

have you any experience of using data highlighter in gwt at all ? any good ?

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dan

Thanks for that good resource Martijn !

Only thing is it just confirms that I should be able to add offer/ticket info yet schema creator plugin offers no such fields option for events but i have emailed Raven support rabout that & the fact that event data i have created so far is actually being displayed visually on the page too which seems strange

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Dan

Hey Mick, makes good sense to do it that way so yes crazy if that has changed!!

My client scenario different in that three quarters of entire page of body copy (all well written & good quality) client wanted hidden behind a 'read more' button.  Whilst im sure this will always be seen/crawled & indexed (although poss not given some of the recent comments) i think given Muellers hangout response theres a very good chance the hidden text will be seriously devalued.

Do you think advisable for me to recommend client re-show all body copy, im thinking so ?

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Dan

agreed very worrying indeed !

let me know any findings after next crawl here & ill do the same

Thanks for commenting Martijn !

O.k so i fill in the description field to simply describe this instance of event schema, but should not expect that to be used in the actual rich snippet since G will fill that with content from the page ?

Also since the event in question is a paid course, where do i put price in Ravens schema creator since there is no price like field ? I see on some resources that prices/costs should be added to event schema via an 'offers' attribute but Ravens schema creator wp tool does not include an offers field within 'events'. Do i neen to create a separate 'offers' item/schema after i create and implement the events schema ?

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Dan

Hi

For your info and others on this thread I have just seen this on SERT: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-index-click-to-expand-19449.html

And in the comments seen this hangout with John Mueller referenced where he says they discount non-displayed text (aprox 11 mins in): https://plus.google.com/events/cjcubhctfdmckph433d00cro9as

Having said that the client I have been looking into this for non-displayed text is indexed but then last cache date is 21st October which some people say in the thread will change after next crawl/cache.

Just wandering your (or anyone elses thoughts on this are) ?

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Dan

Hi

is there a wordcount guideline for the description field in Ravens schema creator ?

according to their page on event schema an excerpt from the page will show up as a short description but then their tool has a field for adding a description!

I was just adding some edited copy from the page into this but if it already pulls in an excerpt is there any need ?

I take it its a good idea for better control of what's displayed in rich snippet, if so what's suggested wordcount limit ?

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dan

Thanks for your insightful comment Bruce !

great info thanks David

Hi

Is it ok to have identical product body copy on market/platform listings same as the websites product listings ?

In this case the products are the websites/own brand products (all pages canonicalised), so i take it shouldn't cause any issues or are you supposed to differentiate the product body copy on marketplace listings ?

Im asking re seo reasons

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Dan