and what do you mean exactly by "mark up manually"? coding?
Posts made by Raydon
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RE: Best practice for cleaning up multiple Google Places listings and multiple Google accounts when logins were lost.
My experience was that mergers and removals take so long and can be very very tricky (google made a huge mistake and deleted / merged a profile we had asked to keep and claim later-awaiting for mail-that had a lot of reviews on it and it was gone with no undo in sight.
I would create and confirm a new listing and get a google plus page for it with confirmation, link website and confirm, and then attempt to merge /delete anything old and bad.
I had a google rep on the phone for adwords and analytics and asked them to help me with this issue to avoid just the headache i was dreading and it resulted in them removing what i wanted them to keep and saving what i wanted them to remove. i even made it clear in back and forth emails with her in writing.
so just be careful, maybe if reviews are not important, request closure and merger of all listings and once all are gone and you can confirm, immediately recreate a clean and official permanent account and keep login access somewhere findable and safe for future.
I know a lot of my clients who have issues with not knowing which email their adwords, their social or their google places or plus accounts are connected to.... its a pain to do anything for them when the time comes...
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RE: WIX & SEO
you bet I never said that.
If you move into wix with an existing site - NO GO
if you start out of wix and do not need all those good full featured SEO controls for your sites - GO GO GO
you can always later on do 301s from old wix urls (hasbang situation considered, there are ways)
I am yet to hear or see a valid complaint for wix or similar sites that is proving they are "horrible" for SEO. the fact that for wordpress you still need to learn coding and will NEVER get the same visuals as easily and as fast (with coding, you can do anything, but then again why use wordpress when you can code)
they say they may introduce this stuff at some point in future and I take their word for it, but wont hold my breath, their future could mean months-years.
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RE: WIX & SEO
there is a technical mismatch. we have tried many times, with sites that are old or new, flash or html5, OSE and wix at the moment do not mix. campaigns, yes they work almost 100% well.
But David would you care to elaborate why a service like wix is "horrible" for SEO while we have had success ranking sites on it very well?
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RE: PDFs and indexing
in addition to Rober's post above, I suggest you see this, this and this
there is SOME value if one cares to get it out of them or if one really needs all possible score (new site, rushy client, etc)
hope this clears it up a bit
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RE: What tools can give reliable competitor traffic data?
obviously if you have enough experience with numbers, alexa figures (as inaccurate as they may be) can hint at a site's traffic (you need previous matched and ensured numbers to correlate your current numbers)
semrush sometimes nails it, other times it completely screws it up, but try that, it may help. They source a lot of their data from ads and scrapers and this enables them to give you surprisingly accurate results on some competitors for whom a good, long set of data exists...
I have seen some sites return 0 results in there as well. which tells you something about the tool and its sources if that site is up and the tool/site crawler is not blocked
even if these tools get better and better at analyzing certain signals and factors to "estimate" the data based on aggregate industry and historical data backdrops that they have, it will still be just that, a hardly accurate estimate. so watch out with all such tools.
ATM, you cannot know about a sites traffic unless you have analytics code setup, injected a hidden counter to spy on them (DONT- illegal and nearly impossible), or can somehow get access to their bandwidth and server data, you are out of luck for anything too reliable in means of traffic.
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RE: Novice Question - Can Browsers realistically distinguish words within concatenated strings e.g. text55fun or should one use text-55-fun? What about foreign languages especially more obscure ones like Finnish which Google Translate often miss-translates?
take this, for random names and brands, they may not even recognize it proper and find the next best guess to it...
ever try googling a brand new online site / brand that is an abstract name? you get corrections and suggestions?
NOT ADVISED to make text sticktogetherlikethis in ANY language. it's just a best practice. across the board, content and url.
As Paul said, I do not like the whole "goofing" around situation with machine learning and Google's current artificial intel. its not nearly perfect technology and you can be its statistical miss...
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RE: Does google prefer expanded text to text that you have to mouse over to show?
Google sees the source code. it doesnt matter as long as the text receives the same position and emphasis value really as far as I know... whether it is on a button, in a title, in a speech bubble, so long as it is ON-PAGE ie not called vai some script from some other source and shown there...
my 2 cents, maybe others know more about this, dont know of any "research" done on this.
I would go as far as saying I would bet the difference is not material to even care about, if it exists at all. for your average content text (not key text like titles or headings)
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RE: Help! Pages not being indexed
Nothing really to "resolve" this.
those tools could simply provide you with cues and signs to figure out what went wrong and when... traffic and referral data on those pages could also indicate when they exactly stopped appearing in search and you can the correlate that with your dev actions if you do have some memory or log of those steps taken and backtrack and find out what was set wrong.
So you see absolutely no errors no messages nothing in GWT per this old post?
if you are using drupal, check this thread about it, it may well be your problem...
also see the very bottom of this page that may help you diagnose if you have a setting wrong in your robots file.
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RE: Where is the full list of Directories on the new Moz.com website?
lol if need be anyone just drop me a line, i have that and hundreds of more directories on a secret list for sale muhahaha jk I am no snake oil salesman, but they did work to some extent, at least in the past.
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RE: What tools/techniques you use to check if a domain has been penalized?
this tool maybe?
more information can also be found in this post
But not sure how accurate would any data be that you may find from any of these tools if you do not have access to the site itself
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RE: Question about Moz Point
could be a bug with the new site update, I'd send them a nice short note directly. OR just hang around, moz crowd are bound to see this sooner or later and officially address it for ya.
UPDATE/EDIT: seems to be a new feature for points to be delayed... or more than likely just a bug. BEFORE, they were added instantly. tonight, well, see the image attached and red rectangles...
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RE: Help! Pages not being indexed
have you checked your google/bing webmasters tool yet? that often will give you the best answer in these situations?
Do you use analytics? Have you checked that as well?
if any pages do show up when you site search your domain on google, then you are being indexed, if pages you made are too new, it may take some time for them to become available in google's SERPs
it all just depends, how long has it been?
I see only 2 links in bing results for your site, but for google we have 9 results, how many should it be? 14?
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RE: WIX & SEO
OSE will not be able to help you at all. no mystery.
SEOmoz folk and Wix folk have not mingled enough to get a solution for this. I would bet no other competing service to SEOmoz and OSE will see much good info/data either.
trust me, I have used wix for over 2 years now.
Campaigns however, do work essentially just fine, rank checker does work, and keyword rankings and traffic data do work, also link information in the competitor section of campaigns works just fine and all totals are shown, even details can be drilled down to in history mode, but for some reason OSE and wix do not mix well and i have never seen it able to read much details about any wix site, even really popular and established one. it only gives the DA, PA, and those top numbers. no details.
This is something that WIXSEOTEAM who are active on SEOmoz said they will "try" to look into and try to work out with SEOmoz... But you can never take wix on face value as they always promise way more than they can deliver in a timely and acceptable fashion, or at least, so far that has been their development and feature expansion record.
Also, I advise you dig SEOmoz real deep and find a few other threads about wix and reasons I and others have discussed for and against Wix when it comes to SEO
wix currently has no 301 or canonical control, no authorship tag and not really a SEO friendly blog yet.
Otherwise, what you read about !# signs and reasons people use to say is bad for SEO, does not apply to wix and all is good in that regard.
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RE: Rankings drop
May I suggest revisiting keyword research and ensure that nothing has change.
Often times kw1+kw2+kw3 could be good for traffic and search in 2009.... if you did you research then for example,
and by 2013 kw2+variant kw1+kw3 maybe the more popular choice for searches...
Check and ensure you have utilized all image SEO capacity and if you have external image / videos make sure they are also optimized to maximum possible extent (backlinks proper, CC in videos, link in descriptions, etc)
after all, one of the main factors in search ranking is traffic, and if you have lost steady traffic for long enough you can get moved around.
I just checked one of your random recipe pages and the main image was named recipes_44.jpg with no alt tag and absolutely no worthy or accurately relevant keywords on the title of the image.
definitely max out on on-site SEO, make sure your titles are relevant, lean and mean
I can't stress A THOROUGH revisit to keyword research enough! Use a myriad of tools to achieve a nice comprehensive list of target keywords for each and every page as well as for the home page and more generic, more primary keywords of interest. See which is more popular now and check the google adwords trends column as well as google trends for past few months and next few months forecast, use google adwords kw tool for current and accurate popularity estimation.
and in the end, double make sure your content gets an easy reading score and is genuine and worthy, these keywords must be used and planted super organically, not for machines, but for humans.
so find out what are people searching more for, "lean turkey" or "low fat turkey" or "healthy turkey" + recipe or +recipes... this all makes quite a bit of differences especially in high end of competition for the very top ranks. and sometimes, you just can't have it both ways and best is to pick one with more popularity over the other or for other business reasons known to you (older generation of clients preferred for example? they may use a more old fashioned term to look for this stuff, although less popular, but acceptable for whatever fictional reason we assumed exists here for that market)
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RE: Removing a link to a 404 page
I thought the OP was talking about having the spammy site remove the backlink which would be a little counter productive in my experience dealing with these sites admins, as opposed to disavowing that external spammy backlink.
EDIT: Here is a more recent clarification and semi-official word from google on how to use the disavow tool: it's not a surgical knife with ricing coating, it's a disavow tool... use it like a "machete"
but i guess if he meant removal of his own 404 url on his back-end, it would be wise to 301 them instead, especially if they do have other quality and non-spammy backlinks. But, I would still disavow a spammy 3rd party backlink anyway. no harm in doing that.
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RE: Wix.com Website Builder Html5 and SEO, what is your opinion
I would like to point out that you need to know the other side of story as well.
I claim and back it up that it is SEO friendly, a good 75% there. missing 25%.
See this thread and this thread and ESPECIALLY read the comments sections
wix has a public relations and communcations problem, and minor SEO/dev issues which are basically expected to be resolved at some point. they HAVE THE ESSENTIALS in place quite solidly for SEO.
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RE: WIX? is it any good for SEO
People often pick on the hashbangs by default without even testing it for 30 seconds. And i just cannot see why they do this, making an automated fool of themselves.
Wix has an escaped_fragment version of your page which it serves to search engines and as far as our testing and use of it has gone, it works JUST FINE, in fact quite well compared to so many other options out there. Google does see and index every single page and sub-page you create in their html5, and so does bing.
Anyone who says wix is bad for SEO because of hashbang situation is just picking on the wrong reason to base that suggestion on.
But if you asked me, I would tell you that wix CURRENTLY is still not 100% SEO-okayed.
CURRENTLY missing features that severely diminish wix's value when it comes to SEO:
1. Full metatag management is not there, minimalistic controls give, too many unexplained limits and restrictions imposed for character limits and type of characters allowed for urls, titles, meta desriptions, meta keywords, etc.
2. 301 redirects are a fantasy here so far, change a page url and all SEO value created is gonner, as if you deleted it and created a new one. or wix has not really explained this point at all what happens when you alter your deeplink url from within wix after it has been established and ranked, does it work a magic 301, nada so far on this front. Whatever it is, as of now, it is on paper or in trial somewhere in their worldwide network of offices and operatives.
3. canonical tag control is not for user to decide. Wix has stated in other posts (go down the comments) that it might fix this and 301 situation in order of priority... now that is a whole topic in and of itself... i never get their order of priority anyway
4. no SEO friendly and solid blog solution, flimsy and backward workarounds.
aside from these, I personally see NO real reason to avoid wix solely based on its SEO performance.
I am making an example mention of another few fellows whom i know use wix on the other side of the pond so to speak, Brown Owl Interactive. their homepage gets a page authority of 40 which is pretty dam good for a small company in existence for under 1 year and it has a domain authority of 28 which is not impressive, but still ok. After all, in some niche markets, we have clients with solid 50+ FIRST spot rankings on google who for the longest time (years and years) did not achieve anything better than these before we took over them, and still maintained their position without much gimmick.
So, if you plan on sticking with wix for the long haul or forseeable future and if you are not looking for anything too crazy (read DA of 60 and above) for your SEO (obviously if you have the money, you should consider all your options and do a SWOT analysis of which to use)
Moving into wix system from an existing and well ranked website: BAD MOVE AT THE MOMENT, you lose everything.
starting out in wix and deciding on other options later: doubt this is a problem so long as you can keep a record of all your old wix deep links for 301 redirects.
Having said all of this, I personally find that wix works quite well for SEO, requires ABSOLUTELY NO CODING (get rid of that dev you can never find who charges you on retainer... no offense to devs, some bad apples) which allows for things coming together so much faster than your typical custom built equivalence. I must also add, NO WORDPRESS template or website will ever be as customizable or as sick-designable as wix is.
I must add that wix does seem to know what they are doing when it comes to SEO and SE handling of their end, its just that SEO options are still so limited, even after html5 platform improved it significantly over flash.
one last pointer: we still have a client on a wix flash site and I can assure you those sites also get seen by Google without any penalty or issue, quite nicely. and this particular client owns a few rankings of their choice within top 3 of their various markets.
NOTE: seomoz and OSE crawlers and other third party systems generally are not equal to google and while i can personally assure you from experience that you are safe with the big G, I can tell you that you will get crippled reporting and analysis delivered by seomoz and OSE due to the wix SEO approach. so if you need solid reporting, wix may really be a bad option, unless you can create your own custom reports using various sources of info, including what is available from seomoz.
edit: most posts you find out there about wix are usually outdated or fully opinion-based biased posts. So take what you read about wix on 3rd party platforms with a grain of salt, I work with it daily and I can guarantee what I see and say about wix.
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RE: A lot more citations than competitors OK?
I'd say just don't make it look spammy, uncle G is going bananas with spammers and may just roll out punishing updates for citations in a few years if people abuse this too.
i mean, who is to know after them two dreaded double P updates they pulled
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RE: Need Tour sales Online
I would suspect your business and website make a perfect topic for a convincing video. Also, nothing in these situations work like good ol personal networking. Do some research, see if there is any events or sponsorships you can pick up worth the cost and exposure and hopefully traffic it brings. a bus is a giant moving billboard or attention grabber after all if you do it right.
We had a client whom in his low season refused to listen to our suggestion for events and sponsorships, only to be convinced of doing so by an even planner in his high season when he had cash flow, and ever since he has not stopped bugging us for finding him new opportunities for sponsorships and events that cater to his preferred target demographic for his business niche.
Take a camera guy on a scenic tour with a nice group of people, offer some company a discount and take the whole group on such a tour and film it, get people's reactions and feedback and use good music, none of this is too expensive and can bring in immediate results. cool and valuable content, be it video, infographic, or a blog post, get shared fast, earn respect quick, and pay off soon.
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RE: Tool sharing sites
I'm sure there are SEO friendly "directories" out there that are exclusive to IT and/or software development. Heck Google has come out with Analytics for tracking the distribution and usage of your apps and loggr already is ahead for "web apps" in some ways.
You could approach sites such as weebly or other template websites that integrate "apps" using their own APIs, aside from getting exposure through industry or application specific directories.
Possibly, schools and universities?
And last but not least, I would make a video of how it performs, short and to point, high quality, and convince people why they should buy and tell them what is so different about it.
widgetbox and similar sites may also help you get exposure for your app.
Hope this helps
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RE: Miss meta description on 404 page
You are talking about a custom 404 page or something else?
obviously, a 404 page is something you need to care for at a different level and either fix the page and url that is giving the 404 to browser or totally remove depending on existing value.
If you are talking about custom 404 page, i think you really need concern yourself with its ranking or anything of the sorts as it is just an error page designed nicely, and in fact it must work as if "page was not found/generic browser 404 error" was displayed.
Here's Google's take at it
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RE: Tracking keyword rankings on sub pages
Nope. you sure don't need to do that!
You do need to add all your concerning keywords used across different pages however and then when you check your campaigns rankings, you can see any top 50 ranking pages of your site and their performance based on the keywords you defined.
you have to click on the little arrow drop down and select "ranking history" then scroll down on that page and notice your highlighted pages. If you have added competitors to your campaigns, you will easily be able to spot them as well.
Those numbers by the way are not entirely too accurate and will be significantly different when considering geographical location of search being conducted as well as privatized search results and preferences.
hope this helps.
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RE: Social Media black hat methods - can google see this?
This is typical of businesses who often run terrible business practices, and offer bad customer support in reality, thus gaining few fans, who then will run out patience with the organic process despite paying for it, and are duped into this by some random spam or call or salesperson who calls themselves social media "guru" and thus you see surprising number of fans for that one terrible business you know and always wonder wth!
I sure hope this never gets into search result ranking factors and that twitter and facebook do something effective against it, it is just going to make a lot of value generation from social media so much harder and more expensive (promoted posts etc).
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RE: Removing a link to a 404 page
Even though it is linkingEither that, or use the now good ol disavow tool on Google webmaster tools, far faster and easier imho.
I would remove them or disavow them immediately.
But it would be good to wait and hear from more seasoned folks (10+ years) who lurk in the dark around here often...
edit: I would say use disavow tool with caution and ENSURE 100% that the backlink source is spammy and low quality and sure to be caught in googles net sooner or later. but i do believe in proactively taking care of this issue to a good extent rather than waiting and seeing the damage rolling out. this can also be based on the total number of followed links that you have, on a small scale, it becomes more of an important task compared to when you have thousands or tens of thousands of links.
However. just to make it clear how bad this can be if left ignored, one of our niche clients has a total of no more than 400 backlinks so far and their direct local competitor has some 60,000 plus. and is a few years senior of a domain based on existence history. yet with us proactively taking care of low quality sites that we find constantly, we have been able to raise their DA and so far reach and tie with the bigger local competitor.
a good portion of those 60000 backlinks are spammy and in need of being removed by manual request or disavow. and i bet quite a few of them end up on old and expired 404s, but the effect cannot be more obvious when these issues are not taken care of on time.
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RE: Squidoo new policy
good thing I just found out about it, would have been a waste of time to write a quality content for this site and get no link juice. Although visitors referred do count, we were not banking on Squidoo for anything more than link juice. Time to get real serious in guest blogging. I just need to network and that is the hardest step as far as my research shows...
Any ideas where a good writer with very few people in his network of fellow bloggers can get a good start at this?
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RE: Has anyone had experience with the Wix platform and it's SEO qualities?
That is GREAT news!
However, a note on canonicals to clarify our issue with existing no-control system: we have no use for them on search engines or SERPs really, they are purely used as landing pages for paid ads liek adwords and/or other planned campaigns like social media targeted for demographics or localities, they will more than likely be considered duplicate content by search engines like google. we do not wish these pages to rank organically at all for anything. However, we need them not to count against us in our SEO efforts or in ranking the main version of our content (non-targeted, not used for ads, want it to rank, with very similar content striped of any such geo or demo info, canonical tagged from all those other duplicate content landing pages)
This is VERY VERY crucial if you have a business website that operates in more than one geographic location or has two distinct and fully different market demographics to target which will require separate landing pages, however, no matter how we go about it, we are wary that despite our best efforts these landing pages may be considered duplicate as the data on them can only be slightly changed anyway.
That is why I think it will incredibly reassuring to have control over this thing and be able to manually or in some other way set those pages canonical tags properly to the main generic version which is intended for organic ranking.
I quote from the same page you posted,
Q: Do the pages have to be identical?
A: No, but they should be similar. Slight differences are fine.precisely why we worry what Google considers "slight" difference. it is as usual very vague and hard to define or bet on, so we would love to be able to play it safe.
I really do hope you guys can find an easy way for your team to implement these two crucial seo features... As a marketing company specializing in web, we are tired of wix only being touted as good for photographers, fashion designers, or newbies with 5 pages of static content! In fact we KNOW it is quite the contrary... Wix imho is an Israeli masterpiece, a showcase of a super genius idea and steadfast development and investment behind it, an invention of the century still quite a secret among webmasters... We have been testing and working and searching it for the past 3 years now. I can confirm we have been able to reduce cost to our clients SIGNIFICANTLY using wix and other 3rd party integrations possible with it, and we have been able to deliver major wix e-commerce sites that used to take 3-6 months dev time in 3-4 languages by a team of pro coders, and $20,000-$50,000 in cost, literally for a fraction of that price and within weeks instead. However, we are a bit stuck with these SEO issues and a couple of other features and issues... including SSL which are not as big a deal as all of our checkouts and forms are SSL anyway, but it just gives a better feel to client to see that https on certain pages, although embedded forms all have seals and are all SSL or TLS based on various uses....
So to sum up, I cannot wait until you guys announce availability of 301 & canonical controls for wix users...
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RE: Has anyone had experience with the Wix platform and it's SEO qualities?
First off, may I say a GIANT THANK YOU for this very sudden and active responsiveness! for a minute that silence was scaring us... but this is VERY ENCOURAGING! and I appreciate your private clarifications for our clients website.
We're good on bing, we tested it again and it was a mistake on our part for unpublished meta information. you are correct, BING DOES SEE WIX HTML5
I see, good move then for 404s, i hadn't actually encountered one since long time ago when on flash, where the giant wix logo would pop up... but that is fixed, i just tested it with html5 and am satisfied with the end result. no more need for a custom 404 as bad as before, this we can live with
301s are really an issue for some of our websties as we are in love with html5 platform and would really like to convert them properly, with the 301s giving the existing page authority and backlink juice to the new exact equals, not the new homepage. reason for this: specific purpose and local-only landing pages and content.
Google may get 404 on the seo version. this is VERY CONCERNING!!!! what good is a 301 redirect if google gets a 404 instead... i mean i know users will be forwarded, but google can never see where that page went... and there goes all the ranking and authority down the drain.
On canonicals: we will be needing this as we WILL have duplicate content on various landing pages designed for different localities and ad campaigns with otherwise super similar content. it is very important for us not get in trouble for this and be able to manually tag only one of those pages as the main source and canonical the others to that page. these campaigns will include adwords, and many many social media activities and you can see why we will probably benefit from having different versions as landing pages designated for each area or purpose.
I must say, if canonicals and 301s are somehow brought under users control [either directly via wix platform, or somehow using a form or a special page on wix-much like the flash to html5 converter... but plz not as broken ;)] our worries for wix seo will pretty much be dead!!!! and we have a ton of website clients we have not risked approaching yet as we had to clarify all of this solidly with wix before we could offer them SEO services or consulting on wix sites.
However, I must say, that all this is making wix suddenly so much more appealing to me as the SEO specialist of our small firm. I had very little way before to confirm or even get answers for any of this as you know those forums take a few tries before a non-robot shoots something worthy back and its very tiring and frustrating for those of us who know a little more than the avg user. I have perhaps asked all of this before over there and have gotten no answers comparable to yours here, not really even close!!!! YOU ARE DOING GREAT SO FAR
Once this is all set and done, I will personally update some of those threads and linking them back to this page, this page is already ranking very well for "wix seomoz" and I'm sure a ton of people who really need trusted and accurate data, do search for this term.... Maybe i can even write a blog post for youmoz explaining all of our findings and experience, as well as confirmed responses from you guys. would love to actually do that once all is set and done! You know what, its actually on my to do list as of now, being worked on and its final version will be pending final clarification on above remaining issues.
Thanks again and waiting to hear back!
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RE: Has anyone had experience with the Wix platform and it's SEO qualities?
@wixseo
Thank you for this very precise explanation.
I can confirm also that pages are being indexed correctly in google. but please read below.
So can i just ask that you or someone in the know from community to clarify for me here, why is it that despite the fact that all pages are canonical tagged back to homepage, howcome when i target for a specific keyphrase without using quotes or anything on google, it is able to pull up a correct subpage of an html5 website and display that as a stand alone result?
I thought based on what i had read and learned, that when a page is canonical tagged for another, it no longer ranks for the term searched that is on it, and instead it will make the other page rank for it instead.
I understand Matt Cutts said in his canonical explanation video that Google reserves the right to ignore canonical tags if its user or webdev is shooting himself in the foot with it and am wondering have i gotten this whole canonical tag thing wrong all this time or is this something that google has pulled or something else and i cannot find a better place to ask this and have it cleared.
also, 301 redirects are a big missing must from our SEO CP for one very obvious reason, a wix flash site and domain being changed to a wix html5 site, will lose all of its link and page juice gained before and basically has to start over and not only that but all old links will be 404d and broken...
speaking of 404s, wix seo team ought to know how useful custom 404s are.... compared to what we show users now which is totally generic and does not cut it for finding the right thing or even retaining one bit of bouncers....
on these two separate notes and basically feature requests, i would like to thank you again for your thorough and clear response and am awaiting your further clarification WIX SEO
Thank you
ps. I do have proof for my claims above from an html5 wix site that i built a while back and i can confirm all pages on escaped fragment version point back to homepage and main domain, yet certain keyword searches bring about different and specific pages of this website into the SERPs. btw this only happens in google, bing cannot see any sub-pages for this website and will not even return the result that google does for a "phrase search" if you need to see them, i can send you a private message as i do not want client name and domain or anything related to them to be crawled and ranked for in here..... matter of fact, bing cannot even see any text on this site's homepage to show underneath the result. it only sees the main domain and title. which is kind of sad as little of a search player as they may be. its being forced to ignore a slice of search market due to wix's current limitations. but i am not complaining about that as i can personally care less for my own clients and sites as google is enough of a river with plenty ol fish. was just pointing it out since i do have a connection live to wix seo on a very relevant and now deep topic in the perfect seo spot in the world.... so maybe that can also get some love
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RE: Has anyone had experience with the Wix platform and it's SEO qualities?
wix has been incredibly cold-shouldery about this whole thing... very canned responses everywhere, no legitimate explanation of why this happens, and why they cannot find a better way to do it, not even a tat on "we're working on this to increase web admin's options for 301s or canonicals. i can assure you they are not hard to code into a platform like wix, all they need to give users is a little control panel much like they have introduced for pages on html5 where you can set separate metadata, etc. with buttons and modes for 301s and canonicals.
it is also my pure guess-based on my understanding of how google handles these canonical tags, and since wix does not want to clear the air- that there is a lazy reason at wix for this situation-to answer my own question this way:
Google has stated that they reserve the right to IGNORE canonical tags when they so feel like based on their understanding of the websites- ie if they see webdev is shooting themselves in the foot with canonicals, they can ignore it and treat that particular page stand-alone.
FOR THIS, I can see how wix could have gotten a little lazy with this and said to themselves, we just set all pages to canonical tag homepage instead, and whenever google sees a page worthy of standalone ranking and treatment, it does so on its own terms.
which would nonetheless be a terrible and uber lackluster approach to a delicate matter such as SEO & CRO, especially for small business clients who cannot afford a $20,000 custom coded e-commerce page.
a good 80% of all you need for SEO is there, missing are minute controls over individual page canonical tags, 301 redirects, and a proper blog- which can btw be remedied atm with a paid wordpress hookup supposedly.
WIX, we need CLEAR answers.
we also need you to clear this across the board
here is just one of the probably many threads on your forum relating to the specifically mentioned topics above. PLEASE RESPOND & ELABORATE
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RE: Has anyone had experience with the Wix platform and it's SEO qualities?
To wix SEO team
I just got off the phone with your wonderful phone support staff and still have somethings i need to address here.
first and foremost, I think seomoz is not wix html5 (not flash) friendly or vice versa, and that wix is rather google friendly. these are my experiences as described below - see questions too to see what i mean.
in google, i have managed to get wix flash sites high rankings (currently a few webpages -master pages- are ranking in top 3 for their keywords. so i cant realy approve of the notion that wix flash is not seo friendly, because i have seen it in action and it is rather seo friendly. he who says nay, does not know the site well enough and has had inadequate experience using it.
and its been OVER a year since we ran those pages and we've only seen everything go up with regards to seo. there are tricks and tips you need to know though to make sure you rank well (h1 and title tags, etc)
However, when it comes to SEO for wix html5 websites, i still have a few things I need to clarify with both seomoz and wix staff's help
1. I would like to know more about how and why seomoz system sees/shows only 1 page (and when there are multiple non-sub page, main webpages visible through wix editor) for wix html5 websites (this is not an issue with multiple master pages with flash, they are seen properly).this has been tested on multiple html5 based wix sites now, both hooked and connected to GA accounts as well and both show only 1 page, the root domain homepage with 1 rel canonical tag from the page to itself. both of these websites have more than a few separate webpages that ought to function independently at least when it comes to being indexed or crawled.
with regards to this problem, there rises another issue that remains vague to me: I know google indexes all text and image content on html5 sites as i have ran site:domain.com keyword test and it sees them. however in seomoz, i only see a bunch of dashes in front of all my keywords for html5 sites (these are not optimized at all and are rather new domains so rankings are very low naturally) and i cannot verify or tell whether they are being seen and are not in top 50 results or they cant be read or seen by seomoz bot and crawler. google sees all of them and shows the correct internal url page result when you do a site search test. just want to confirm that seomoz can also see them
2. on wix flash, why are rel canonical tags to the root domain from every single separate master page changing up and down from seomoz's point of crawl? I mean, i have not made any changes to the site in question in 3 months and my number of rel canonical tags have gone up AND down constantly without ANY edits being made to the site in the same time period of 2+ months,
3. why can't we get sitelinks the same nice way that we can get with wix flash sites in your html5, this is a big deal.
and finally i have an open question to seomoz and wix staff both:
why or why not is it a good/bad idea to have all of your webpages rel canonical tag the homepage and transfer all seo points gained and attributes to the main domain. i am lead to believe that this is what wix does automatically across both flash and html5 platforms, at least this is what seomoz seems to be reporting.
in the end i would like to thank all of you wonderful and helpful people at both companies in advance and would like to mention that we are looking forward to using both companies services in conjunction with one another to build nice and cheap websites for our clients and also be able to optimize them well and be able to show and report on all of those efforts properly (what is currently crippled due to issue #1 above). particularly using the html5 site builder. I am sure there are swaths similar minded people like me albeit in the dark and in silence who are wishing they could use the new html5 sites with seomoz the same way flash ones work. i hope there will be more compatibility among the two and good constructive answers to my questions and challenges above.
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RE: Has anyone had experience with the Wix platform and it's SEO qualities?
if you dont mind,
what was your need for doing this
and
what was your workaround
im interested to know here
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