How to sell linkbuilding?
-
Howdy SEOmoz,
I was wondering what your approach is in selling linkbuilding to clients (we're an agency).
- Do you sell it as "linkbuilding" or more like content creation/content marketing?
- do you bill by the hours, instead of project based?
- How would you calculate the number of hours required? (I know "it depends" :-), but still some insights would be cool)
- Do you start immediately with more creative strategies (widgets, infographics)?
I'm really looking forward in learning how you guys tackle this.
Best regards,
Nik
-
Have you ever known anyone to do linkbuilding (or SEO for that matter) on a revenue share/commission basis. I have not heard of this being done but it seem that a good Link Builder would not be afraid of having more upside rather than a fixed amount of money with no skin in the game.
The one downside to this is how is this measured. Does the client decided? Does the client show the books and averages the last years revenue and anything over that average is share profit at say 80/20 .
My focus is strictly e-commerce sites.
-
Hi Nik,
We work on a very holistic approach where we seek to deeply understand the client in their current situation and what they want to get out of working with us (which is (usually)... more revenue!)
So, you want to sell a benefit, not a tactic.
Link building is a tactic (that "anyone" can do), you want to sell "increased revenue", and how will you do that? With link building
See the difference? It's small but makes a big difference.
Remember, people don't really want to buy a drill, they want to buy a whole in their wall, but the drill is what does it.
Many people will measure links built, or rankings, or whatever else -- and those things are great -- but at the end of the day, all of that stuff boils down to a simple question : Did we make more money because of the work you did, yes or no? If no, they probably won't want to work with you much longer, no matter how many great links you've built.
It's the dilemma of connecting the business side to the technical side.
When doing a proposal, we look at the competition and see how far behind our client is. Then we do some estimates as to what we would need to do to out rank them and come up with a total amount of work.
At that point we can gauge it to the clients budget.
For example, if we think it's going to be 6 months at $4K per month, and they can only do $2K per month, then we would do "half" the work we planned on per month, and stretch the timeline out to 12 months.
Same amount of work, but the client controls the timeline based on the budget.
There is a limit however, if the client wanted to spend all $24K in the first month, we wouldn't be able to complete everything and get the rankings so you have to space it out realistically.
Remember to build into your costs some of the "meta" work like reporting, calls, link outreach, getting content created etc.
Hope some of that helps.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Opinions On Resource-Page Linkbuilding
Hi, I'm just looking to get some opinions on resource-page linkbuilding. These are links you would gain from sites when you use the following type of search operators: "keyword" + inurl:links
Link Building | | Tomwindham
"keyword" + inurl:resources
"keyword" + "helpful links"
... and so on... What do you think Google's thoughts on this subject would be when a large portion of the pages returned are long lists of links - usually these will be the title of the page linked to as well as either a bare link or an anchor text link. In some instances a short description of the page linked to would also be there. Are these long-term links that will continue to be relevant and worth spending time on for linkbuilding, or are these going to be see by Google as lower-quality links and potentially unnatural ? For example, Google's page on link schemes states; "Low-quality directory or bookmark site links" may violate their guidelines. Do you think that in some cases, resource pages may be seen as somewhat fitting this description? Thanks! [Edit] I have also found this comment from a Moz post 4 years ago, but cannot find any other reference to John commenting on resource pages: "A while back, someone asked John Mueller in a hangout about the benefits of getting a link on an outdated resource page and the answer was that if it is a link that never gets clicked on then it's probably not passing a lot of value."1 -
Who can tell me good linkbuilding companies in France, Italy, Spain and Danemark?
For one of my clients I am looking for trustworthy companies who can help me with (qualitative) linkbuilding (internal & external) for webshops in the following countries: France Germany Italy Spain Danemark The client has set up a seperate webshop per country - so there are several webshops on several domains. Therefore I would like to put a local linkbuilding company per country to help us get more organic traffic. Could anyone point me in the right direction ? Thanks in advance for your help.
Link Building | | tolle820 -
Linkbuilding Suggestions For Technical Site
Hi Mozzers, I'm facing a tough link building challenge for a manufacturer's representative of technical controls and am struggling to find links beyond directories. The site mainly consists of manufacturers products and creating original content is tough for me because of the technical nature of the business. Any suggestions welcome.
Link Building | | waynekolenchuk0 -
Linkbuilding strategy for website development firm... some questions...
Hi there: I own a website development and internet marketing business. We began providing onpage optimization as a natural extension of our website design services for our clients. I'm now personally working on the backlinks for our site, and I have a question for someone with more insight than I currently possess: You folks are probably aware that many web design agencies post footer links in their client's site, with some sort of anchor text to the effect of "website designed by Blankety Blank..." I've read that these types of sitewide footer links are probably a wash, in terms of linkbuilding value. (Thoughts anyone?) My best sense is that they help a little, but not a lot. Which led me to my next stratagem, which I'd like some feedback on the merits of... I'm thinking of offering my clients a slight price reduction in exchange for a dedicated page on their site for attribution. It wouldn't be pure self-promotion in nature; really just a brief description of tools used to build the site and a backlink. It could be part of a pre-existing "partners" page on the site, if client has one, currently. (Some of ours do...) The net result of this would be a single backlink from the main body content of client's page. Is this a smart move? I'm wondering what others think...
Link Building | | splatdude0 -
How to improve (ASAP) the linking root domain, the followed linking root domains and the linking C-Blocks? Linkbuilding (or whatever) techniques.
I have a small site (.com) like any website in my sector. 30-90 pages. I have no crawls errors. Everythings is fine, just I need to improve my linking root domain, the followed linking root domain and the linking C-Blocks. Example: my competitors have 300 (one of them have 1300) of total links. I have 30. Anyone know some good strategies? techniques? tips? I just dont want to be in a farm directory, I want free links. I'm already running two strategies but it works so slowly. I want something faster at this moment. Also, any recommendation will be thankful.
Link Building | | NicoDavila0 -
Same IP for sites & linkbuilding - negative signal for search engines?
Let's say you have 40 websites which share the same IP and you place links to them on a bunch of sites (directories, blogs), albeit on different pages on these sites. Will search engines (google) see that they use the same IP and start having the links not-pass link juice based on that same IP?
Link Building | | qlkasdjfw0 -
Linkbuilding URL Problem
Hi, I work for Perfectly Engraved. A lot of our links point to http://www.perfectlyengraved.co.uk/. However that address forwards to - http://www.perfectlyengraved.co.uk/ecommerce/scripts/default.htm. Should we ensure our links point to http://www.perfectlyengraved.co.uk/ecommerce/scripts/default.htm or does it not make difference? I've put our forwarding code below. <%@ Language=VBScript %> <% Option explicit Response.Buffer = true Response.Redirect "http://www.perfectlyengraved.co.uk/ecommerce/scripts/default.htm" %> Also, would it help if we did a 301 redirect from http://perfectlyengraved.co.uk/ecommerce/scripts/default.htm to http://www.perfectlyengraved.co.uk/ecommerce/scripts/default.htm? As both addresses for every page on our site return the page with or without www Thanks
Link Building | | Aardvark0 -
What are your experiences with outsourcing linkbuilding?
For us, any indian/3rd world linkbuilding vendor - do NOT hire them, they will ruin your link profile. If you give them very specific directions & find the right company/guy they can be decent for guerilla (blog/forum/etc) linkbuilding. What are your experiences?
Link Building | | qlkasdjfw0