Why does google not show my ecommerce category page when I have the same keywords for many products in the product title?
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I have found that google removes the google serach listing of a category from my site (ecommerce) when products within the category have the same key words.
I sell golf shirts and have a category called "Mens Golf Shirts" Within the category I have added many products but when the too many of the products say mens golf shirt my link on google gets removed.
Before i had products named:
FUNKTION Mens Short Sleeve Golf Shirt Red / Black
but now I have had to change it to:
FUNKTION Red / Black
I can understand that they may see this a keyword stuffing but how do I get around this to ensure that each product can rank on google for mens golf shirt
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Hi guys,
Thanks for the quick replies, I really do appreciate it.
It seemed to be when I add multiple products, say over 5 and they all have the phare golf shirt in, it seemed to have a negative affect on ranking i.e they would fall dramatically.
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Out of interest, how many is "too many"?
I've got some pages that match your description that are fairly loaded and seem unaffected. I was wondering how many similarly names products you have on a page around the time it is triggered.
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A great way to get around this would be to apply a different title within the category page linking to the product page than the one displayed after hitting the product page. People at the category level likely know they are in the mens shirt section so doing brand + color + style (long, short, sweater et cetera) and sizing options at that level for the title and then when the user gets to the actual product page having your H1 and title tags reflecting the full string including "mens shirt" may be an ideal way to do this. Obviously this may take some adjustments in your CMS but if what you are seeing seems definitive enough this is a great middle ground and likely worth the coding effort to add an extra entry field for "category page product title" You may even be able to automate it by simply having your system drop the category text from product titles within a category page.
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I think the shirts having variations like:
FUNKTION Mens Short Sleeve Red Golf Shirt
FUNKTION Short Sleeve Black Golf Shirt for MenMight work. This would give you good rankings in Google Products (Google Shopping) and as far as the listing for your category page is concerned, that's the page that should be ranking for Golf Shirts or Golf Shirts for Men or Men's Golf Shirts.
What do you mean when you say "link on google gets removed."
Do you see drop in rankings ? Where does it rank now and does it disappear from the 1000 results or just gets dropped ? Because the rank/shift could be for a variety of reasons.
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