How to Identify Which Penalty : Penguin, Panda or Other?
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I'm in the process of putting together a plan to recover from Algorithmic penalty. I'm not sure if I have to focus my recovery effort based on Penguin, Panda or Other algorithm penalty.
After looking at the attached screenshot : Google Analytics Data vs Google Algorithm update timeline, I'm not sure if the blog is affected due to Penguin or Panda.
I have following questions
- Traffic drop is because of Pengin, Panda or Other penalty? (there is no manual penalty message)
- Where should I focus my time with recovery efforts? (link removal, contents, link building, etc).
- Any other comments or suggestions?
Thanks for you help.
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Thanks EGOL. I will get that removed as well.
I got a new link from this site in footer 2 days back. There are about 20 pages in that site. I have an option to request the same link in this single page.
Should I request from single page? Thanks.
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One of them have removed it and trying to get other removed as well. Google Webmaster listed like 2500 links pointing to home page from those 2 domains.
I agree, these links could be a problem.
Also, I'm trying to get the link removed from sites that scrapped contents, but those sites don't have any contact info to reach a real person.
Getting rid of these links can be next to impossible. I don't think that they are as bad as a site-wide footer link.
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I'm going to take the quiz later today. Link to the Blog.
Link Build Efforts: I didn't put any effort to build links.No guest blog posts or any other dedicated campaign for building links. 99% of the link came in naturally.
There were 2 sitewide footer link from PR 5 sites. Only effort I put to get the links (not paid). One of them have removed it and trying to get other removed as well. Google Webmaster listed like 2500 links pointing to home page from those 2 domains.
Also, I'm trying to get the link removed from sites that scrapped contents, but those sites don't have any contact info to reach a real person.
Abut 3500 pages are indexed. About 2000 receive SERP traffic. Bounce rate of the site is 55%.
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EGOL said it best. Nobody could possibly tell you this based on the limited information provided.
Sharing your domain and other details (link building schemes/efforts, what you do to market, etc) would help us get closer to helping you. But EGOL's resource is awesome and he's absolutely right. Take the quiz, be honest, discover where you went wrong. If it's not manual, this can still be resolved. If it's that bad, expect a manual penalty to come next.
G'luck.
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You are in a better position than anyone to answer this question. Anyone who answers here is guessing.
Take the quiz at this website and be very honest with yourself when you answer. If you don't know an answer because someone else did the work then get them to give you a straight answer.
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