What shall I call my site?
-
With all the google changes and social media focus on seo, I am in a bit of a dilemma and any opinions welcome.
My husband has a very small horseback riding company based in a tiny mountain town of Costa Rica and I cannot decide whether to call it by the company name or by a more generic name that is likely to be picked up by the search engines ( I do believe the importance of domain name is less than it used to be in terms of search with all the new google changes).
The two names are www.horsetrekmonteverde.com (bear in mind that his customers come from the States and horse trekking is not commonly used)
and www.horseridingcostarica.com
One mentions Costa Rica, the other not as you can see. Also not many people have beard about Monteverde. However I am trying to do some strong branding! What would you do?
-
when you say the local keywords you mean horse riding costa rica or horse trek monteverde?
The company name is Horse Trek Monteverde
There are other companies with more general names such as horseback riding costa rica and costa rica horseback riding,
-
Yes, indeed there is another web site that a friend started called www.costaricahorsebackridingvacation.com years and years ago. The name is way too long (!) and she does not do anything to do it, in fact she has moved from the area and does not reply to my letters. But the site ranks so well!! She never really knew anything about seo or linking, she started doing it for a hobby.
Hence I decide to start a new web site and link tripadvisor and horse trek monteverde facebook to that.
I wanted from the start to use horsetrekmonteverde.com as the company is called Horse Trek Monteverde. But as soon as I started asking around and mentioning that I also own a domain called www.horseridingcostarica.com most people advised I should use this as more customers will put that in a search.
Horse Trek Monteverde is known only by people who do a search on tripadvisor and by the local hotels in Monteverde.
My gut feeling is to go with Horse Trek Monteverde as I could market/brand it better but maybe I am wrong? I feel that Costa Rica and horseback riding will be mentioned so much in the site's content that the actual domain name won't be too significant. But others are telling me different!
-
I don't agree that 2 separate websites is the best way. It would mean double the costs and effort - would there need to be 2 logos because there are 2 websites? It's definitely not "strong branding". It could be potentially confusing to customers and you'd be competing against yourself. Would it stop at 2 websites if another market opened up?
Which is the biggest market?
I wouldn't be sure about calling yourselves horseridingcostarica.com as a horseridecostarica.com already exists - so if you're giving the URL out/printing it on leaflets etc. there's more potential for confusion e.g. as the latter is already established, Google AutoSuggest might autofill the latter URL as people are typing and you're giving business to a competitor.
I've also noticed a "Horse Trek Monteverde" on TripAdvisor and a standalone website with the same name - I'd guess that's you? My gut feeling is to go with your company name (although you're small, are you well established?), though not knowing your company name I can't be 100% sure (for example if it's difficult to spell).
Edit - and safeserps makes a good point - what if your business expands? How big do you aim to be?
And I've heard of Monteverde! I'm hoping to visit Costa Rica in the next few years.
-
''In theory, it is better to walk before you run - so depending on your aims and targets, you should start with targeting the local keywords.''
That is unless, you are prepared to fork out a lot of money for PPC.
-
Dilemma indeed!
In theory, it is better to walk before you run - so depending on your aims and targets, you should start with targeting the local keywords.
Once you have got all hooves on the ground, you could then start to incorporate wider, unlocalised keywords to help with the growth.
To make use of this, I would find a domain that makes use of a search query as well as a localised keywords. You want to find a combination where it is obvious that you are based in this location, but so that you aren't tied to it when you try and take off!
Hope it helped.
-
ok, then both domain names are "appropriate" ...
the best way would be to take one to target the "tourists who book last minute" and the other one to target those who book from the States in advance ... You would gain a very good range then and ensure to use two good domain names in the right way...
-
We have 2 markets..... dedicated horse riders who are looking for a multi day horse riding vacation and book from the States well in advance.
The other market is tourists who book last minute once they are in Monteverde and for short rides.
-
Have you answered yourself the question if you want to advertise more local or within a wider range?
I would use the 2nd one... I like that more because it seems to be "accurate" ...
You might be very right that the name of a domain is no longer "the most important thing" according to all those changes which already took place and all those changes that might take place...
BUT
It is still a relevant ranking factor if you can use a domain name that fits for the proper keywords... and it CAN help you to make things a little bit more easier.
Experts will tell you that you should focus on unique content and all those things closely associated with that and they are absolutely right!
AND in addition to that It won`t hurt and it will have a significant impact if you choose the right domain according to the content you will focus on... do a keyword research and take the results into your consideration...
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Are there any noob sites that might enlighten me to how everyone earns income here?
I know...very odd beginner question so let me elaborate. I have always worked in the corporate grind. I quit and opened up a couple of small (fairly unsuccessful) businesses since 2007. I enjoyed the SEO parts of building the business but just couldn't get them to stick. (local service businesses) I have fallen into some lead gen business with my old customers and I am trying to build that now. How are the majority of the SEO people earning income here? Are most selling their SEO services to other small businesses? Are most earning ad type income here? (how does that work?) I am quickly being forced back into the corporate grind again and would really prefer to learn and taylor my SEO efforts into staying self employed if possible. Would anyone be able to direct me to sites that might explain how entrepreneurs are earning income around here? A little 'Career Counseling' of sorts? (haha) I sincerely would appreciate some enlightenment. 🙂
Industry News | | MontyTheLab2 -
Getting started with E-commerce sites
Happy new year, Mozzers We are about to take on our first E-commerce client which will be something new for us as we expand in 2014. Being a small outfit, we've never taken on a type of site like this before, which is great for new experiences and challenges. Do you have any advice, recommendations, suggestions, things to look out for etc, etc when working with E-commerce sites for the first time ever? thanks M
Industry News | | Martin_S0 -
Subdomain initials vs full city name(s) for a multi city subdomain site?
Helping with a multi-city non-profit magazine/news blog. Subdomain options; sf.domain.com, ny.domain.com, la.domain.com sanfrancisco.domain.com, newyork.domain.com, ... Some cities added, will as an example seol.domain.com a city that doesnt have a recognizable initlals, like NYC for example. For brand, recognition, seo benefit, what have you used and why? Thanks
Industry News | | vmialik0 -
Google Site Warnings via Phone?
I received a voicemail earlier stating that "there are two issues with your company's current Google listing that we need to discuss with the business owner. it is very important that we talk as soon as possible. press 1 to speak with an agent immediately. press 8 if you have already verified your account information or if you are no longer in business and want to be removed from this list. thank you" that's it. no contact number, no reference to what listing or what type of listing (organic, places, etc.) Checked GWT, GA, and the Gmail - there are no warnings or messages in any of those accounts. Has anyone else experienced this?
Industry News | | EmpireToday0 -
Strange video site adding unwanted links.
Today I was checking our backlink profile and noticed a lot of strange back links coming from grosezinga.com apparently this site is some type of search engine for videos, and it somehow pulls videos from Youtube, and Daily Motion, and adds them to the grosezinga search engine. I have never placed a link on this site, I do not want a link there, and I never even knew it existed until today. We do have video tutorials on the web, and somehow this site has pulled them from our video page without our permission, and added them to this site. Anyone ever had this problem, should I ask for them to be removed? When I do a Google video search my url is showing up on about a hundred different videos that are not ours. I don't want to be accused of building unnatural links.
Industry News | | TinaGammon0 -
Good time to start a niche site?
I am wondering, with all the recent changes in the algorithm, is this a good time to start a niche site? I know this can be fairly subjective, depending on the niche. But, anyone think this is a good opportunity?
Industry News | | inhouseseo0 -
Why Does OSE (Open Site Explorer) have such little backlink data on russian sites in the google.ru index?
OK this seems v strange, but google.ru are indexing far more BLs in their SERPS for a widget than OSE reports. Very little data is found in OSE for russian based sites. Is this the marketing intention? (I could send raw data if needed!) What is filtering this vast google.ru data list out? Is OSE only catered for US/UK?
Industry News | | Turkey0 -
My site was hit by the Penguin Update, Now What?
My site is very young, having only been up for about a month and a half. Despite being nascent we were seeing a ton of organic traffic. Enter Google Penguin update.... Traffic is down 40% or so over the past week. So, assuming the damage has been done, the question is, what do we do next to start moving back towards where we were? If we're doing everything everything right do we just chalk it up to the fact that our site is very new and stay the course on original content and link building? I know you can submit your site for reconsideration which is something that we are going to do this week, but I wonder what else we can do to start edging back to where we were pre-penguin update. Maybe this would be a good Whiteboard Friday topic.
Industry News | | knowyourbank0